A Quick and Dirty Dating Guide to Foreign Girls
June 12, 2007 by roissy
Like most measurement tools of the quality of a man’s game, the flag metric doesn’t account for a girl’s hotornotness, but it is still superior to the notch count because foreign girls do have subtle differences in their outlook on life, their behavior during courtship, and their opinions of men that will test the flexibility and resourcefulness of a guy’s game. The sum total of a foreign woman is more than her ethnic cuisine. It makes sense that, for example, a Japanese girl and a Peruvian girl will yield very differenct experiences for the player attempting to bed them.
Not knowing the distinguishing traits of whatever foreign girl a guy is trying to pick up won’t kill his chances with her because the fundamentals of game are universal, handed down from the cosmos like the ten commandments of poon*. The tried and true methods will work regardless of her country of origin. Nonetheless, knowledge of her ethnic idiosyncrasies will put a man way ahead of his competition.
The one structural advantage any guy has with foreign girls, namely the allure of the exotic (hybrid vigor for you science wonks), is not something that can be learned. I assume it counts for some fraction of my interactions with them, but since most of the foreigners I met were in the US at the time and surrounded by “exotic” American men I don’t think that advantage played much role.
The following observations are based on the foreign girls I have been with for more than a one night stand. All of them were recent (less than one year) emigres. Feel free to extend these gross generalizations to the entire ethnic group.
Russian - I have a thing for Russian chicks and Eastern European chicks in general. Their apple faces and chiclet teeth make my loins sing. The toughest part of gaming them occurs right at the beginning, getting progressively easier once the front line defenses are breached. They are a challenge to approach because they compose themselves with an icy aloofness that tells a guy he will get his balls handed to him if he dares interrupt her calculated repose with a “hi”. Once opened, the Russian chick will shit test you like there’s no tomorrow. Her barrage of caustic rudeness will shock you and leave lesser men reeling. This defensive mechanism has been honed from a lifetime of dealing with Russian men who went caveman on her with direct game. The important thing to keep in mind is that her initial flurry of verbal blows is a paper tiger. Successfully parry her and you’ll notice her eyes immediately light up with attraction. Underneath the chilly exterior she harbors an uncontrollable desire to submit to a worthy man. If you are that man, she’ll transform from bitchy ice queen to sultry seductress in a flash. Sex with them will be like nothing you’ve ever experienced with an American woman. They are ravenous in the sack and love to be dominated. Their submissive posturing and obvious delight at servicing your sexual perversions needs will make you feel like a man who missed the memo on the feminist revolution. When she gives knob jobs, which is often, you will sense right away that she enjoys every minute of it and is not just doing it out of obligation — your dick may as well be a vodka popsicle. Don’t be surprised if she sweetly asks you if you’d like to do her in the ass the first time you make love with her. There is only one answer to that question. Caveats: Get to them before they hit 30; after 30 it’s instant babushka. Also, Russians are incredibly manipulative. They can smell fear upwind. If she is able to get to your soft underbelly, she’ll rip you open. Don’t ever show weakness or let her know she’s won you over. An old Russian proverb says: Once a woman captures a man’s heart, she loses interest. This is doubly true for Russian women.
Polish - The second most warm-hearted, selfless, and charming girl I have ever been with was a Polish girl who, unbeknownst to me until the last days of our fling, happened to be married. Which shows that even angels with a heart of gold are capable of infidelity. Contrary to the ethnic jokes, Polish girls are not stupid. They are sharp and funny and hopelessly romantic. Yes, Polish girls are more romantic than even French or Italian girls. Their romantic idealism is not as stylistic as the French nor as passionate as the Italians, but it goes deeper and they feel it more strongly. If you recite a poem you wrote to a Polish girl on a date, she will love you for it without a hint of cynicism. They are less materialistic than most and that is reflected in their strong connection to nature and the supernatural. You will get more mileage out of watching a sunset with her than with any other type of girl. A Polish girl will fall in love with you the second your dick grazes her labia. Most Polish girls are naturally thin — they don’t exercise much but they don’t eat much either.
Czech - These are the new “it” girls of Europe. They are all unconventionally hot. Czech porn is bookmarked in my browser. Czech girls love buying you things and they relish the sappy romantic phase of courtship. “Let’s take a walk under the moonlight” is a common refrain you’ll hear from her. Czech girls have embraced the feminist dogma of the West yet remain tied to the traditional dating mores of Eastern Europe which makes for a lot of hypocrisy. But that’s OK, because all you need to be is an oak tree for her to lean on through the storm of her emotions. The one Czech girl I was with was average in bed. Clearly, the American sense of entitlement had corrupted her after only a few months in the country.
Estonian - It has been said that the hottest girls in the world hail from Estonia’s capital Tallinn. I believe this is correct. My next trip abroad will be to Estonia. Like other European women, Estonians dress stylishly, are comfortable in their womanly skin, are naturally svelte, and love the company of men. They hate Russians so if you want to win points with her drop a casual anti-Russian remark about how you heard their women drive their men to drink and an early death. Most Estonian women are 9s and 10s with the approachability index of 6s and 7s, so when you find the rare one in DC you absolutely must go for it. They like to wear baby tees that accentuate their ample Baltic bosoms. Estonian women are so beautiful their 40 year olds are more fuckable than DC’s 25 year olds. If you are smart, spend the day with your Estonian lover being seen at your favorite pick up spots in the city. When she goes back to her country, she will leave you the parting gift of unbelievable social proof you can cash in for six months of American tail.
French - Fashionable, coquettish, flirtatious, worldly. These stereotypes are accurate. Hairy armpits, anti-American, and loose? Inaccurate. True to their image, French girls love to be seduced as much as they love seducing. Just make sure you know what you’re doing. Heavy-handedness or clumsiness during the pick up will turn her off. Subtlety is key, even if it’s cheesy subtlety. Play hard to get with a French girl; they eat that shit up. Emphasize the “tortured brooding artist” angle a la Ethan Hawke in ‘Great Expectations’. If you have a rudimentary knowledge of black and white photography, offer to take her picture. Nitpick her tiny flaws while you are arranging the shot — “this lighting is bringing out the severity in your nose. here, let’s just move your head this way. perfect!” The French have an inflated sense of self-worth so open a 6 the way you would open a 9. Don’t expect her to fall in love with you just because you penetrated her. Do expect her to have other lovers on the side. If she moves back to France you will never hear from her again.
Finnish - If you think teasing is all part of the fun of flirting, you will not get along with a Finn. Joking banter that arouses an American girl will send a Finn rearing up with indignation at your effrontery. You will be left scratching your head at how someone could be so hypersensitive to your playful humor. I used to call my Finnish girl “finn-skinned”. She almost cried. The upside is that a Finn chick is a naif in the art of head games, so you’ll never have to deal with her flirting with other guys in a bar just to make you jealous. Finns are introverted. There is a sly Finnish joke that goes: How can you tell if you’re talking to an extroverted Finn? He looks at your shoes. But don’t mistake this aversion to sociability for weakness. Remember, these are the people who held off a much larger Soviet invading force. And the best sniper in history was this guy. A Finn girl’s introversion hides a surprising strength of character. She won’t tolerate her man walking all over her. Fiercely loyal and commitment-oriented, Finns make fantastic girlfriends. More than other women, Finns appreciate small gestures like spontaneously buying her a rocket pop from an ice cream truck. Finn girls smell fantastic and look ten years younger than their age.
Chinese - These girls are sensitive and hold to traditional beliefs about dating and courtship. Seducing them ham-fistedly will backfire. If she is hot, don’t bother with backhanded compliments or other similar tactics designed to put a girl on the defensive about her beauty, as the Chinese girl, like the Finnish girl, will take everything you say at face value. A little game goes a long way with Chinese girls, especially if you are a white guy. They are natural caretakers and will be very supportive of you while you are going through a tough time. While they don’t have a reputation as romantics, they are in fact quite loving and affectionate. They are not as earth-shaking in bed as the Russians, but they can make love for hours on end and have an encyclopedic knowledge of fornication positions. They have a kinky streak. Odds are you’ll get a finger up your ass in the middle of sex. Oh, and it’s true, Chinese girls are very tight and have soft skin like teenage vulva.
Romanian - Romanian girls come from a very tough land, one of the poorest countries in Europe, and this stressful upbringing has molded them into very traditional marriage-minded women. Dating them will be like a time warp to the 1950s. At least, that’s what I’ve heard from friends who have dated them. Unfortunately, the Romanian girl I hooked up with had been in the US for years. It showed. I only include her to demonstrate what a pernicious effect American life has on a foreign woman. Occasionally, I caught glimpses of her former self — the bouyant whimsy, the joie de vive, the optimism, the humbleness. Too bad her soul was slowly getting crushed.
Ukrainian - see Russian if from east Ukraine; Polish if from west ukraine.
So there you have it. Be thankful if you live in DC. This city attracts many foreign girls. Once you start dating them, you’ll wonder why you ever bothered with American women. The only downside is getting rusty at dating American girls. When your foreign lover leaves, there will be a difficult period of withdrawal as you adjust to the realities of dating the local scene again and all that it entails - the princess issues, the status whoring, the cellulite, the attention seeking, the bitterness, the neuroses, the strident anti-feminine careerist beyotch militancy. It will be enough to make you want to pack up and leave.
excellent!
Very informative. Hall of fame
I don’t agree with the post-30 babushka thing. I work with a Russian chick that looks 25, even though she’s in her early 30s. She’s got a nice face, but I can’t get past the teeth. When she first started working here, she was plain and depressed. Then she got herself an American boyfriend and she seemed to brighten up and transform herself at least 2 points higher on the scale.
Its too bad you don’t have a guy version of this post for the ladies.
I generally think that gaming is somewhat universal but I was wondering what you thought about the effects of race on gaming.
For example, in the U.S., black men are perceived by some women to be out of bounds for a variety of historical and sociological reasons. Asian men, too — who are often perceived as less desirable relative to other ethnic groups.
This phenomenon basically holds true outside of the U.S. as well. White men and women are fawned upon in Asia and Europe, while black and Asian men get the shaft (aside from certain situations like Asian men in Asian countries).
So while the flag metric may be valid within ethnic lines, it falters across lines because white men have a built-in advantage from imperialism, media globalization, etc. For example, I know many Asian folks who ridicule the white expats in China, Japan, and Korea as the dregs of Western society who can’t hack it in their country and yet still score with Asian women who are obsessed with Hollywood portrayals of white heroes who are more liberalized and warmer than their Asian brothers.
So if an Asian dude scores with an Estonian hottie, I think there is more value in that flag, than if a white dude scores with a Japanese girl (all else being equal).
This argument is similar to affirmative action debates where conservatives think students should be assessed equally without consideration of race and liberals believe that this notion of meritocracy is faulty because of institutionalized racism and other factors. Or in the words of MLK, you can’t put someone that has been shackled his entire life at the starting line and expect him to run a fair race.
Roissy, outstanding job!
A buddy of mine is a mid-westerner of Estonian decent, decided to work out there for a few years. Really bright and nice guy, absolute zero game and wouldn’t you know it, he game back married to absolute hottness. They had their first kid a few months back. In the hospital post-delivery she looked better after childbirth than most women do before a night out!
haven’t dated women from all those countries, but the Russian analysis was dead on. Women from Finland and the Baltic countries are ussually very attractive, and rugged!
Sort of disagree about the Poles. i think they run the gammut, especially since Poland is really a border country straddling the East and West.
We should add Germans to the list!
You know, now I’m going to write one like this as well. Instead of women, though, I’ll do groups of people/races. Can’t wait for the backlash.
mm - has your russian co-worker been in the US long? that would explain her fortunes at avoiding the curse of early-onset babushka-ization. russian women living in russia do not age well. i’d do a guy version but it would be secondhand info gleaned from the foreign chicks i dated, and hence somewhat colored by their experiences. the ball is in your court.
de tocqueville - you make some valid points, (though i would argue that the reasons for the disparities in interracial dating are somewhat unclear. for one take on it check out http://www.isteve.com/IsLoveColorblind.htm), but addressing these issues would really complicate the flag metric because we’d have to nail down exactly what advantages each race or ethnicity has with women before declaring one flag worth more than another flag.
top - germans are perverted sheisse vid lovers, we all know that!
irina - you’ve bedded men of many different races?
don’t sweat it, you won’t get any backlash. people are intrigued by this stuff.
Czech women are the hottest? I had heard that it was Croatian women that have all the men raving these days. Also, Spanish (Spain) women do not live up to their fame as nice and hospitable. They are tough to uproach and seem to be very traditionally Catholic in their notions of courtship. They like sappy romantic statements and are fantastic in bed.
I heard Koreans are the hottest of the Asian women, but have never been to Asia to verify.
Roissy, I gotta hand it to you. This post is priceless.
As much as I’ll laud the humor in your ethnic analysis, I only wish ensuring a good shag were as easy as looking at somebody’s passport. I’ve hooked up with a valid statistical sample of foreigners who, based on national stereotypes, should have been mind-blowing casanovas– but they were no better lays than the average American. I’d actually venture to say that foreign guys spend way more time perfecting their barroom game than their bedroom prowess.
I don’t know what to say. You have left me speechless.
Although I’m not French, I did spend a lot of time in France and 1) thank you for clearing up the stereotypes and 2) you’re dead on.
Actually no, unfortunately my flag metric score is absurdly low. (Russian women only date Russian men) So is my anything score (except my credit score- Jewish people are good with money). (Oh and my SAT score, Russian Jewish immigrants have really high SAT scores.)
Or maybe those are stereotypes, and though it seems okay to generalize about what women are like in bed or in relationships… it’s not quite as okay to publicly generalize and stereotype about race in general. I like this loophole.
And if I were to write something about the men my friends or I have known I can generalize:
Serbian men: bad kissers
Italian men: bad kissers
Albanian men: creepy
Greek men: creepy and bad kissers and ‘quick’
French men: pretty
Russian men: better than anyone imagines
Israeli men: bad in bed
Iranian men: never want to be in a monogamous relationship
Dutch men: tall and handsome, but you have to chase them
American men: play bizarre games in which they assume they manipulate women into bed, and then take pride in that.
Irina, Latin american men: possessive and insecure
irina: “unfortunately my flag metric score is absurdly low”
unfortunately?
i think for girls the only metric they’d be interested in following is the alpha metric. no notches, no flags. just one data point — did you or did you not rope an alpha male desired by many woman into marriage?
if marriage isn’t your bag, substitute with LTR.
“Russian women only date Russian men”
i’m evidence against that. unless you’re talking about russian jews, which may or may not be true, i don’t know. russian jews and russian orthodox are very dissimilar in just about every conceivable way except love of marxism and language.
“Russian Jewish immigrants have really high SAT scores.”
you may be interested in this study:
http://homepage.mac.com/harpend/.Public/AshkenaziIQ.jbiosocsci.pdf
“about the men my friends or I have known ”
if american men play games it’s only because experience with american women has trained them to do so.
I’m a black guy with six flags [cue the crass 'amusement park' jokes]. Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Guyana, Jamaica, Trinidad, and…Bosnia.
I think de tocqueville was right about race affecting a black man’s game. Some girls will outright shut you down before you can speak. The reactions are polarized. Either they are very open [due to sexual curiosity] or very closed. Some don’t even want to talk to you…forget it. I’ve had a couple white girls start conversation with me [when I'm looking clean cut and not too urban], but most seem to be apprehensive or outright repulsed by the suggestion of sexual interest. Haven’t really tried my hand with Asians, Pacific Islanders, etc.
Now, the Bosnian girl was GREAT. Met her in a bar in Manhattan…she lives in Jersey. Didn’t have the best handle on English, but clear about her interest and didn’t play games. Great in bed.
I don’t think being black would prevent me from ever getting a desired flag [except for those groups that don't copulate with outsiders, like certain Arabians, or Ethiopians] but it makes it a lot harder. It’s all good though. I like a nice booty and black and latin women have that in spades.
Roissy, you missed the humor of my comment. I was trying to use some random maybe-true-maybe-not observations to show how maybe they’re not always…and…nevermind…forget it.
i figured you were being facetious. i was hoping to bait you into doing a post analyzing your conquests. please to do?
So true about Russians, heaven on earth. And the great thing is - Russian guys are such drunken s**ts that the women jump at the first foreigner they see.
Irina you’re talking rubbish, there is a whole literature on how Russian girls don’t like Russian guys. Especially when you consider the skewed sex ratio due to the conscription and deaths-from-alcohol of young men, which allows the remaining men to live a quasi-polygamous existence, so the girls who do not wish to partake in such a scenario look abroad.
cuchulkhan you have no sense of humor
An interesting analysis.
I was going to say Russian women are beautiful, but to be honest, I don’t discriminate. I appreciate beautiful women of any nationality.
Related to this, I have found it interesting that the most popular posts I’ve had and that continue to get traffic are the the two I posted of Russian women.
Sexiest female DJs http://multislacking.wordpress.com/2007/06/06/sexiest-female-djs/
Russian Girls at Game Developers Conference
http://multislacking.wordpress.com/2007/06/11/russian-girls-at-game-developers-conference/
I’d imagine American men are good in bed, because American men won’t settle for anything less. The less romantic and the more hard-bitten your women are, the better you have to be in bed to impress them.
Whoops, I meant American women won’t settle for anything less.
mq - i think there is something to that. except i’d say the less traditional women are the more they expect to be properly serviced in bed. from what female friends have told me, this expectation hasn’t led to american men becoming wizards in the sack.
How many girls did you fuck?
Roissy you are somewhat are an idiot.
You seem to end up with Americanized foreign women. Thats kinda pathetic.
I met many Czech girls and very few have the feminazi characteristic you describe. They are just not as desperate to get out of their country as say Russians.
why is everyone so hung up on race and nationality and ethniticity? i am white but really this is immature and the guy who wrote this is not a man of honor or integrity. why does anyone read this guff, validate him, and why would anyone of respect even comment to his sins/evil and his disrespect for woman? he insults females and objectifies them (but is is above it himself in his own very small mind) and should be ashamed of his actions and his writtings here. i hope he knows that one day he will have to give account for these deeds, which are purely of satan.
just imagine, one day when you have a daughter or two hopefully a young guy will talk about your female children like this. also i wonder if anyone mentioned your mother in you race/nationality list. maybe you should start there by devaluing her and the other women in your family. hopefully your future wife will be devalued too. you are a damaging person.
assuming your white i guess your mother fall into you last paragraph, right?
also wondering why you have such superiority? as if your king of the world and a winner. well i dont see the true kingpins of the world doing what you, only small men who are nothing and have nothing do what you are doing. the top of the food chain marries within thier race and dosent have to do what you to feel important and validated. bill gates, president bush to name a few. men on the top dont have to act like they are someone because they are. they dont devalue women to feel good about themselves like you. only small insignificant men do what you. who puts down his own nationality and its woman? evil small men=you. all your actions are those satan does….. i guess he is your father. any insults you want to make about him? hes coming to get you.
ps……. american men are not great hot or desireable, they are easy targets thats all, because they want to believe the lies. foriegn men know the tactics of thier women and they dont play the game. american men make good puppets and pets for the women of other nationalities they are gullible and useable and desparate to prove they are kindpins. the women act thier way to the altar for a green card and meal ticket (american men believed they are getting a prize, when really they are part of scene in play they are unaware they are in!) see how blind evil and stupid this guy is lol
i know plenty of russian woman and guys who date them, its always the same story. disaster. men like this guy are ruining america with this garbage. selfish selfish selfish. think about ameria and others for once. get your brain fixed and start doing the right thing for the betterment of all. YOUR NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. GOD IS. YOUR NOT SPECIAL OR NOVEL OR VALUEABLE.
gloating about victimizing, using, manipulating, devaluating, hurting, misleading and showing how useless and disposable women are shows what kind of person you are and how you really feel about women. WOMEN SHOULD RUN WHEN THEY SEE YOU, IF THEY SAW THE REAL YOU THEY WOULD, BUT LIKE SATAN YOU WEAR A MASK OF A DECENT PERSON UPFRONT, WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING, IS LIKE YOU, SATAN COMES AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, SO YOUR ACTIONS ARE THE SAME who does what you do? DEMONS AND SATAN. THE TOP OF THE HEAP MEN GET MARRIED AND SPREAD LOVE AND PEACE. the bottom of the food chain do what you do.
why are all the hottest riches men married?
because thats what 10s who are winners do.
ZEROS DO WHAT YOU DO BECAUSE YOU A NOBODY A ZERO.
i can only imagine what kind of evil raised you and taught you evil was good and to be the monster you are.
[...] sigh and look at the dancefloor and generally make her displeasure known. This was expected. As I’ve written, women from the former Soviet Bloc are cold as ice on the approach and will shit test mercilessly [...]
This post is gold. As a guy who lives in Europe and has planted numerous flags in France, Germany, Austria, Estonia, Russia, and Italy, I can tell you most of these observations are spot on.
Ever any California girls ?
the hottest girls in cali are the asians…
just to tell you that russian women are cold and i have a lot of them,but ukrainian are crazy in bed.if you please really well them they will follow you like tha cat follows a good susage.russian girls pretend to be classy but they also love susage ,dont expect them to have everyday sex with you but when they have it the explose,Now with these ukrainian and russian u have to be careful couse if u gicve her only dick she will find somebody on the side just for money.I live allover to europe and i would say eastern european wonem just want to get the hell out of the sountry.In ukraine and russia the proportion of men and women is very low u have 10 women ro a man.After 1 and 2 world war also with all those stalin and nazi killings there were more than 40 milion men killed and also in russia and ukraina and alloverexsoviet union there are more girls borned everyday then men.Soi russian and ukrainian and all eastern european girls dont feel special there too much competition between women just for a man.So they wanna come to America when they can be queens when most of women here are fat and no classy( american women) a girl from eastern europe an average one in eastern europe would be the queen here.Also men are really macho there and drink so dont get tricked and twisted my friends couse a lot of people brought them here and next thing u know she is gonne with the richie
[...] tho their leader gives Finnish girls some props… in his way… Finnish - I used to call my Finnish girl “finn-skinned”. She almost [...]
[...] February 23, 2008 by roissy From “albatros”, in response to my post on dating foreign girls: [...]
Regarding 27 & 29: Roissy: LAINE IS NOT ME!! I SWEAR IT ON MY CAT’S GRAVE!!
27, 28, 29: Laine! You are a breath of fresh hatred! I love your comments; they are so to the point. Why mince words? I have to warn you that roissy has asked me to tone down my criticism as this is supposed to be a “fun” site, where serious issues are discussed with big words and decorum, and criticism is not expressed using CAPITAL LETTERS. Roissy wants us to believe any provocative statements are all done tongue in cheek.
Dead on about the description for the Russian girls. -couldn’t have said it better myself.
Interesting post, so many things I could take issue with. I will limit my comment to one. That is the exclusion of, in my humble oppinion, the most beautiful women in the world. that is the circle including eastern Africa, southern Russia, and western China. With the most striking being of Persian descent. I think you will find these women test the limit to a man’s fortitude and resolve.
What’s your take on mixed nationalities? Is that basically just the same as “American”? I think that mixed heritage can make things a lot harder for you to predict/ stereotype the person.
I’m an Estonian, living in Estonia - and it’s true the women here are extremely beautiful. I’ve also lived in the US for about 2 years - and I have to say - I see more beautiful girls here in a single day than I saw during the whole time in the US.
I’m a dutch man, currently living in Finland. Id like to add some stuff about finnish girls. What I first noticed, is that they are naturally pretty curvy. You dont really see any flat-chested women in here. And they also have great bums.
But they do get hurt pretty easily and want to be equal in everything. They dont really expect you to buy anything for them, or to pay the bill if youre in a restaraunt. So they take care of them self, many of them have great careers and stuff. I know a lot of men dont give that much respect, but I do, since Ive lived with a girl who wanted me to be the one who takes care of _everything_ financially. That girl, my ex was asian.
Id say asian girls are pretty easy for every guy. The most unattractive guy you can imagine can score asian girls, such as japanese, chinese or thaigirls, as long as he has money. Dunno why that really is. What sucks about them, as lovely as they are, is that they truly expect and demand the man to buy them everything. They value money so much it gets ridicilous. If you cant buy her expensive gifts all the time youre in for a crisis. They only do pleasant things to you, if you spend your money on her first.
What sucks about them, as lovely as they are, is that they truly expect and demand the man to buy them everything. They value money so much it gets ridicilous. If you cant buy her expensive gifts all the time youre in for a crisis. They only do pleasant things to you, if you spend your money on her first.
Zac, I’m Chinese, and I know that “money” preoccupation you are talking about. It’s a weird kind of instinct that we have. Money is very big in Asian culture; for example the number 8 is the luckiest number for the Chinese because it means “to grow” or “get richer.”
Asian women are encouraged to look for men who are “stable,” “hard-working” and “good providers” and to overlook everything else, as long as the money is there. I suspect it’s the long, peaceful civilization culture that caused Asian women to overvalue money and undervalue physical prowess, which would be more valued in a more war-like society.
Personally I hate it when my man buys me anything expensive as I feel like it’s a waste! If he spends more than $30 on a gift for me, I think he’s spending too much. But I know this is also just another manifestation of the Asian money obsession. I hardly ever buy anything for myself, always look for a good deal, and love saving up/hate taking risks with money, etc. I also learned these habits from my mother.
It’s always good to understand the underlying motivations behind our actions. I try to temper my stinginess because it does get a bit extreme sometimes. I am definitely not as generous or charitable as I know a lot of Americans are…
Hope,
My experience with Chinese women is exactly as you describe yourself. Definitely a cultural thing.
What makes a Chinese girl want to be close to a man? Is it demonstrating how hard a worker you are? How would this go on a date? What kind of gifts are appreciated? I would guess maybe something useful?
I am extremely attracted to Chinese girls but, as you can read, pretty clueless on how to attract them.
-JH
sad.
really, incredibly fear-of-female-power-and-being-an-equal-human-being-sad.