Let’s face it, Toronto is pretty much New York City’s bitch, so finding something unique to tell about the city requires superb powers of observation and a fresh, unspoiled perspective. Luckily, you have me.
The trip began with my usual flair. Airport security confiscated my Astroglide (I always travel prepared for any eventuality). Apparently, any liquid over 8 ounces is not permitted on the plane. The security guy was very professional about it. Obviously, he has had to dispose of a lot of adult products. There was a mother with children standing next to me at the X-ray machine who watched the whole time. I smiled at her and winked.
The cleanest-looking beggar I’ve ever seen. DC’s bums shame this guy. I figured he was putting himself into character for a drama school project, but he seemed really out of it. I wanted to verbally abuse him, but my heart wasn’t in it, so all I could muster was “Uh, you… suck?”. I asked him to insult me, instead. He wanly smiled. I gave him a loonie.
There are cool, funky vintage clothing shops all over Toronto. In this respect, DC is clearly beat. Everyone dresses better in Toronto. Fashion is taken seriously, even by the poor college students who manage to look good with a patchwork of inexpensive styles from shops like this one. The downside is that you will have a harder time standing out if you pride yourself on your peacocking.
Inside the ROM (Royal Ontario Museum). In the background is Toronto’s douchiest club, Lobby.
Toronto’s women are on average half a point higher on the looks scale than DC’s women, but the biggest difference is noticeable at the right tail. The top 10% in Toronto absolutely blows away the top 10% in DC. I don’t know why this is. It’s not just the better fashion sense, though that helps. The women there have more beautiful faces than the women living in the free world’s capital city. Despite there being far fewer blacks, there are more asian-white and white-unknown multiracial couples in Toronto. This may explain some of the beauty disparity as it is widely theorized that multiracial couples are hot, but then Toronto’s 100% white blonde blue eyed princesses were hotter than DC’s Georgetown princesses, so the conclusion has to be reached that DC women cannot compete on the international stage.
If you are a fat American, you should stay close to home. The culture shock of being the only disgusting blob in a city of slender people will fill you with a burning shame you never feel in the US where you are comfortably surrounded and ensconced (literally) by millions of your blobby compatriots. Better yet, we should create an anti-fat government program that sends every fat American to a foreign city (except London where they are getting just as fat) so that they experience the cold eyes and sneering contempt of thin beautiful people everywhere they go. Shame is a powerful motivator.
“You are captivated by my armpit pheromones, oui? Smell zee French!”
We went to the Justice concert at club Circa and in the hallway leading to the main dancefloor there was this chick in a room behind a glass wall doing a Cruella De Vil impersonation. Supremely cheesy, but I liked it. I pressed my face against the glass and licked it. She fell for my charm and wrote her number on a piece of paper, holding it up to the glass.
The trolleys… excuse me, *streetcars*… in Toronto are great. The city wants to get rid of them because the rails get iced all the time in the winter, slowing down traffic, but I think they should keep them. They’re convenient and good at rocking you to sleep, so you get to see guys like this blissfully unconscious, even with scalding coffee in his crotch. The coffee cup never moved.
Fritz Helder at Strangelove. It was a video launch party for his new song “Lagerfeld Lady”. It actually wasn’t bad for the genre, if you like electropop. I complimented him on his lime green jeans and flattering imitation of Prince. I don’t think the Asian guy did anything in this band, but he was integral somehow.
*Everyone* in the Justice crowd was either rolling, snorting, sparking it up, or all three. Drug enforcement is practically non-existent in Toronto. You can smoke a joint on the sidewalk in the middle of the day with a cop car parked a block away. Or so I’ve heard.
Smelly, hairy Frenchmen with groupies. It’s all about game, gentlemen. And DJing, the art of making music out of other artists’ music. That’s how you make it right!
She went up behind one of the Justice guys (the gray hoodie dude on the left is blocking him) and started dry humping him. Points for style and humor. He didn’t notice.
Remember, hate is not the opposite of love. The world secretly yearns to take America’s giant cock up its collective ass and moan with submissive pleasure.
Tommy Boy was filmed here. One of the great American classics. “You can get a good look at a butcher’s ass by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn’t you rather to take his word for it?” The Distillery District in Toronto hosts a lot of Hollywood movie productions. They even film gritty New York City scenes here, like the one in Cinderella Man, because it evokes the charming American cities of early 20th century. But they have to grit it up by tossing bags of garbage in the alley before filming, to get the feel right.
The useless toy dog plague is a worldwide phenomenon. There is no escape. I’m beginning to think the Koreans have the right idea.
You want to step up your closing game? Buy some professional photographer’s equipment, like giant flash lighting and an impressive camera, and direct your party guests for picture-taking, paying extra attention to how the hot girls are posing and gently moving their arms and head in place to perfect the shot. Another thing that might help: Start a career as a fashion photographer. Sweet Jesus.
My overall impression of the locals: Everyone is exceedingly polite and unfriendly. Sounds paradoxical, but it’s true. They say “excuse me” and “sorry” a lot, and will always answer any question you have, but they never smile or strike up conversations with anyone. Even couples walking together seemed to be on two different planets. Crime is low. Six months of killing winter frost puts the kibosh on that.
If you go there to pick up women, don’t expect any fools’ mates. Chicks simply do not check out guys. Stone-faced and looking straight ahead is the order of the day. They are as chilly as the climate. I was told Toronto men never approach women and most have zero game, so how anybody hooks up is a mystery. Intimate social circles where men and women just sorta kinda fall into each others’ genitalia must be the default mating method.
Many top PUAs hail from Toronto. A disproportionate number, really. I wondered why this was so. I now have a theory based on the people there. When girls give you NO approach invitations at all, you have to assume all of them love you, and go in strong. Waiting around forever for eye contact is a fruitless endeavor. Since these chicks are cosmopolitan and don’t get sloppy garbage-hour drunk like American chicks, your game has to be tight; any hint of cheesiness or awkwardness will send them running. Plus, when the local guys make no effort to game women, the rewards for the enterprising PUA are greater. You can stand out a lot more in Toronto as an assertive man than you could in DC, where every douche and his little douchey brother get some liquid courage and boost even the fat girls’ egos, and where the pickup scene is more widespread.
Next city: Warsaw.
Interesting to see Roissy is a Justice fan… my experiences with Toronto have been fairly similar, although I was approached by girls quite a bit in their nightclubs, certainly more so than in the NYC ones.
“They say “excuse me” and “sorry” a lot, and will always answer any question you have, but they never smile or strike up conversations with anyone.”
Wrong Canadian city, Roissy. Next time come to Montreal. The women here blow Toronto’s clear out of the water…they answers all your questions with a smile and one night stands have a 5:1 ratio over Toronto.
How exactly can you afford your lifestyle?
Are you rich?
Inquiring minds want to know.
I used to live in Buffalo and we used to go to Toronto regularly because the girls were so easy to hit on. They were also more aggressive than American girls, at least in the nightclubs. Guys there are incredibly petrified of approaching women, I have no idea why, so when we Americans used to go there they were just so happy to get approached that a 9 or a 10 would be as cooperative as a NY 6 or 7. Even if you have to start the conversation, they will be enthusiastic about the reciprocation and follow-up.
I also understand why pickup would be so popular up there, as the guys there are so scared to approach women that I imagine they’d be eager for any system claiming to help them overcome approach anxiety. Keys to the VIP takes place in Toronto I believe, and you can see how differently and cooperatively TO women deal with approaches as compared to American women.
Good summary overall Roissy.
The trolleys… excuse me, *streetcars*… in Toronto are great.
Once upon a time, Washington DC had a network of streetcars, but the tracks were ripped up and replaced by buses. Eventually, the plans for a metro system slowly gained traction during the early 1960s, and hence, the creation of WMATA. There are plans to study potential corridors for the return of streetcars to DC to serve the areas that Metrorail doesn’t serve in the District.
If you like streetcars, write to WMATA and DCDOT and use your alpha powers to get them to build more streetcars.
Toronto’s women are on average half a point higher on the looks scale than DC’s women
DC is where Wellesley Queen and her friends go to make use of their poli sci degrees. New York is where pretty girls make use of their intelligence and beauty to make some cash, have fun, and meet a rich guy. Toronto is essentially the anglophone equivalent of New York for Canadians.
Despite there being far fewer blacks
IIRC, racially, Toronto’s American equivalent is Seattle or Portland…
Regardless, I heard Canada’s great for black guys who want white women…
I used to live in Buffalo
SUNY Buffalo Civil Engineering Major?
Actually you are probably right there. It forgot to take that into account when talking about the aggressiveness of Toronto women. Being black does help in Toronto and Montreal if you have even a little game.
Everything seem pretty accurate except for this: “the trolleys… excuse me, *streetcars*… in Toronto are great.”
Try taking a streetcar to work Mon-Fri at 8:30 am in the fucking morning or try to get home after 5:00 pm.
If one breaks down or any car stalls on the track lane, all of the cars behind are stuck or if they’re much further back, re-route. Constant delays.
Regarding your comment indicating that a lot of prominent PUA’s coming from Toronto. I’ve noticed this too.
In my last year of high school in a city 45 min east, a few older guys who went to university in Toronto were telling us how stuck up the women were here and how hard it was to pickup women.
Two of the guys were extremely attractive, confident.
I moved here 8 years ago, and have heard this so many times, but i don’t notice it personally.
On the fashion thing. I met a Korean girl and she’s been telling me that Toronto’s fashion and technology is far behind Asia’s.
What is this shortage of blacks you’re going about. I had instructed finefantastic to lead you into the ghettos wearing coordinating colours because yes, everyone is that fashionably orientated. It’s not even about gang colours, it’s under the mentality that you’ve got to “get it right, keep it tight”.
Also no mention of the national incident you caused here? You deflowered one of the nation’s popular VJ’s. I can’t even watch MuchMusic (Canada’s MTV despite the fact we actually have MTV and MTV2) without smirking.
@8: The alpha male, little known fact but Asian fashion is SICK. Go to an international newstand and check out asian fashion mags. Good article about it:
http://www.kinowear.com/blog/what-asia-taught-me-about-casual-style/
If one breaks down or any car stalls on the track lane, all of the cars behind are stuck or if they’re much further back, re-route. Constant delays.
That’s true for nearly every metro system in the world with the exception of some parts of New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia’s subway system. Hell, even a bus breaking down in the middle of the street can cause trouble as well.
dude, you really need to brush up on your XHTML skills…
on top of this, your header menu has been KILLING me for weeks now.
question, did you bang anyone while abroad?
If you go there to pick up women, don’t expect any fools’ mates. Chicks simply do not check out guys. Stone-faced and looking straight ahead is the order of the day. They are as chilly as the climate. I was told Toronto men never approach women and most have zero game, so how anybody hooks up is a mystery. Intimate social circles where men and women just sorta kinda fall into each others’ genitalia must be the default mating method.
-Roissy
Hmm. Sounds just like Seattle.
Fitness is generally a function of either lots of leisure time, and wealth, to spend hours in the gym, or general just walking around, which is a function of a mostly homogenous, White or Asian city, that is well policed and has a non-corrupt government in regards to policing. Think Tokyo, Seattle, Vancouver, etc.
It also helps greatly if it’s cold, and has a good public transit system that is safe and hassle-free.
One of the problems of light rail is that without proper policing it can turn into a war zone. I probably share David Alexander’s rail obsession, I could and do rail-fan whenever I get a chance (the DC, Atlanta, and Hong Kong systems rock, Beijing’s is useless but cheap — it goes nowhere but is a good escape from the mid-day summer’s heat, and the Bay Area’s is a depressing joke. Chicago and New York’s is hit or miss).
The best way to be thin is to burn calories constantly by walking around as much as possible. This means policing and crime control is critical. It’s not enough just to have lots of vigilant, non-corrupt cops. It requires social attitudes and homogeneity, to create powerful social expectations of behavior.
LA, when it was a mostly White, Midwestern city had an extensive network of streetcars, even under the corrupt rule of Mayor Frank Shaw, that worked. People were thin back then (look at the old photos). Social expectations worked. Now, the transit systems are plagued by crime.
The best way to be thin is to burn calories constantly by walking around as much as possible.
Walking really doesn’t burn many calories. People are fat today, at least in America, not because they drive instead of walk, but because they shovel way too much garbage down their yaps.
If one breaks down or any car stalls on the track lane, all of the cars behind are stuck or if they’re much further back, re-route. Constant delays.
That’s true for nearly every metro system in the world with the exception of some parts of New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia’s subway system.
Why? It’s not even true in Helsinki and we *must* have the world’s shortest subway.
Not that I’ve ever seen a subway car break anyway… seems much less common than, for example, “accidents”.
No, walking (and biking) everywhere does burn a lot of calories. When I was on vacation in Europe I got caught up in walking everywhere for two weeks and I dropped weight faster than when I follow my usual gym routine. Walking everywhere means less time sitting around and eating, so all the walking changes your diet too on an unconscious level. Also, I found I ate less and healthier because I knew when I got up to leave the restaurant I had a lot of walking ahead of me. You don’t want to eat a lot of heavy, greasy food if you have a lot of walking to do.
Is that Alias Clio in the t-shirt-dress sitting behind Fritz what’s-his-name?
I lost alot of weight walking also. When you have to walk a mile or two to get home it changes how much and what you eat. So it burns calories and makes you consume less calories.
Who knew Roissy’s fans were such passionate public transit aficionados? Bitches and rails!
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I probably share David Alexander’s rail obsession, I could and do rail-fan whenever I get a chance
Oh god, whiskey is fucking railfan too….
Anyway, I’ve yet to ride WMATA which is somewhat embarrassing given the fact that it’s only three hours away from NYC, and I have enough Amtrak Guest Rewards points for a day trip, but Atlanta’s rail system is rather weak, and I’d argue that while the Bay Area is lacking in connectivity and solid planning, it still has a more functional and usable network when compared to most other cities in the US. Mind you, I suspect you’re rating systems on coolness, and not actual usability, hence your low opinion of NYC and Chicago…
Now, the transit systems are plagued by crime.
In the case of LA, it kinda doesn’t help that their heavily used light rail line runs right thru the heart of the ghetto…
Railfanning can bring one to really questionable areas with high crime rates, and from what I’ve seen, the danger isn’t in the stations per se, but the areas around the station. You’re not going to be robbed in the WMATA Anacostia station, but your chances may increase significantly when you leave the area around the station.
Mind you, your point about crime may make more sense with neighbourhood bus stops in high crime areas.
Why? It’s not even true in Helsinki and we *must* have the world’s shortest subway.
Aren’t they building an extension so it’s no long a one-line, one-side of the city wonder? Interestingly, in the US, the Helsinki Metro is roughly the size of the barely 4 year old San Juan, Puerto Rico Tren Urbano system. The recently opened Santo Domingo system in the Dominican Republic (which has become a point of embarrassment for Haitians) is a bit shorter than your system…
Trust, me, there are probably other small systems in the world too, and at least you guys have trams.
As for breakdowns, NYC can get their trains to average between 100,000 to 300,000 miles between breakdowns, and that’s for a gritty underfunded system.
I found I ate less and healthier because I knew when I got up to leave the restaurant I had a lot of walking ahead of me.
Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of eating out? Why should I pay somebody to make small portions of healthy food that I could prepare for a fraction of the cost at home. I go out to eat greasy, fatty large portions that taste good.
I shared an apartment with a Bulgarian-Canadian from Toronto. She was really nice, but repeatedly claimed that Canadians are very polite, but two-faced. They may seem like friends when they really aren’t. Comports with your observation. Aren’t whiterpeople like this generally? I imagine the hipsters and organics who’ll talk to you casually, but slink away at the first chance he gets. He feels awkward, and a little intimidated, by your different values and background.
American obesity is mostly due to huge calorie consumption. In 1970, per person consumption was ~3,000, which is itself a lot – that’s a tad high for the average man, and definitely too much for anyone else. Today it’s 3,800 (a fifth of which is sugar). 500 calories a day past maintenance level will have you gaining a pound in a week.
Source: Wired Magazine, 16.11 Future of Food (available on the site).
I’m a college student at a top tier school, and it’s incredible how so many of the girls are chubby, but very few guys. The biggest losers are usually skinny guys and fat/hideous girls.
Whiskey, obesity in L.A. is a race/class issue. The white people there are generally middle class or better, and in decent shape. In L.A., the poor black and all latino women are fat. The black guys are usually in good shape, and the hispanic men are a little chubby, but are kept in shape by manual labor.
Women in Toronto say that Glorious Natural Pelts keep them warm on those cold Canadian winter nights.
No, walking (and biking) everywhere does burn a lot of calories. When I was on vacation in Europe I got caught up in walking everywhere for two weeks and I dropped weight faster than when I follow my usual gym routine. Walking everywhere means less time sitting around and eating, so all the walking changes your diet too on an unconscious level. Also, I found I ate less and healthier because I knew when I got up to leave the restaurant I had a lot of walking ahead of me. You don’t want to eat a lot of heavy, greasy food if you have a lot of walking to do.
I’d have to say that walking caused you to drop weight because of these effects on your eating habits. Calorie-buring resulting from the walking itself had relatively little effect.
According to this chart, walking at 4.0 mph, which is a very fast pace, burns only 345 calories per hour for a 190-pound person. Obviously that’s better than sitting around or driving, but it’s simply not enough calorie-burning to cause any significant weight loss.
is there any subject you can’t tie into GNPs?
Aren’t they building an extension so it’s no long a one-line, one-side of the city wonder?
Jesus, you really are a railfan nerd! It’s not actually one-line, it branches at the very end, but then, it’s not a real subway there.
They’ll start building it next year. Or so they say. The route plan doesn’t even seem to be clear even though it’s supposed to be finished in a few years and it’s only going to be a few more stations on the continued line anyway.
Aren’t they building an extension so it’s no long a one-line, one-side of the city wonder?
Jesus, you really are a railfan nerd! It’s not actually one-line, it branches at the very end, but then, it’s not a real subway there.
They’ll start building it next year. Or so they say. The route plan doesn’t even seem to be clear even though it’s supposed to be finished in a few years and it’s only going to be a few more stations on the continued line anyway.
http://ekstrabladet.tv/flash/article1074335.ece
I’m going to sound and conform to the typical stereotype of americans by non-americans with the following response: that kind of review of a city gives me no desire to go in the slightest bit. if there’s not late open bars, slutty women, hard drinking and such…i can enjoy cold weather, hard to approach women, and somber evenings of pretension here in the US wi/out the cost of a plane/train/bus ticket….or “petrol” for my Honda. thanks for saving me the trip. Toronto is off my list of places to see and visit firsthand.
aside – the drug reference makes it clear how the hooking up occurs. i have to assume that women more open to drug use are more open to laissez-faire sexual attitudes. not always the case, but the case more often than not I should think.
I never said it caused me to lose weight solely because of calorie-burning. Just that it caused me to lose weight. The calorie burning portion was one reason, but the way it changes your diet is another. Either way, lots of walking changes how you eat. Even if you are eating junk food to go, you can only manage a hot dog or some fries as you walk, you can’t sit down with a huge junk food spread.
Sure it is. That 60-minute calorie number is not that different than the calories burned in 20 minutes of a stairmaster or elliptical. Just like 20-30 minutes a day of stairmaster or elliptical can drive weight loss, a daily regimen of 1-2 hours of walking can as well.
DA, you’re not that naive, are you? You can definitely get robbed at the Anacostia Metro. Yes there are cameras. No, they do not care. They are thugs, and eager to prove it. It happens more than you think. The density of thugs on the train is directly proportional to the density of thugs living where the train is.
Yup. I knew a girl who was gang raped in a Helsinki subway station. On camera. They don’t care.
Smelly, hairy Frenchmen with groupies.
I hope Roosh wasn’t with you. That much combustable material in one area could pose a fire hazard.
“Apparently, any liquid over 8 ounces is not permitted on the plane.”
Travel much?
That rule has been in effect since at least 2006.
Checking bags is the only way to go.
“Everyone dresses better in Toronto.”
DC all in all is a horribly dressed town. Really all of America is. Which is good if you are a sharp dresser.
“The downside is that you will have a harder time standing out if you pride yourself on your peacocking.”
Get a closet full of custom suits. You will dress better than more or less everyone on the planet.
“The top 10% in Toronto absolutely blows away the top 10% in DC. ”
Hell, the top 10% in Toronto basically blows away the top 10% in LA. Well, maybe not. But I think the girls in Toronto are more fly than LA. Note: high proportion of Models come from Canada, and Toronto Specifically.
“the conclusion has to be reached that DC women cannot compete on the international stage.”
You are just figureing this out? Travel more.
“Chicks simply do not check out guys.”
Speak for yourself. I had girls sweating me like a steam room in Cartagena, Colombia in summer.
Pick up Artists hail from Toronto because its a super easy scene:
More Girls than Guys
Drugs
Cigarettes in bars
After Hours clubs
Docile Guys
Toronto is Dope. Thanks for letting the cat out of the bag.
- MPM
Jesus, you really are a railfan nerd! It’s not actually one-line, it branches at the very end, but then, it’s not a real subway there.
Yup, Roissy, Roosh, and T travel to game foreign women. I travel to ride foreign trains and hopefully pay $9 per gallon to drive on their motorways.
Thanks to wikipedia, one can discover some basic facts about nearly every decent sized transport system in the world. Along with other websites, any railfan can determine a city’s worth for railfanning purposes. While Helsinki has a decent sized tram system, the subway line is rather small, and thus, not worth the time and cost of traveling there, unless, you can point out an actual non-train related reason to travel there. And no, the Pendalino ride to Turku, Tempere, Kupio, or Rovaniemi isn’t worth it because I can ride the Pendalino in Italy or hell, England…
So, my dollar gets wasted first in Sweeden, then maybe Norway, and then maybe Finland…
Given the pic above, is it her ?
http://www.muchmusic.com/tv/personalities/sarahtaylor/
Nice…
DA, you’re not that naive, are you?
I didn’t say that it was impossible, but that it’s more likely that one would be robbed outside of station premises. Hell, I know railfans who ride the light rail in Compton and nothing has happened to them. I’m well aware that stations in high crime areas are more likely to be more dangerous than that of low crime areas, but I’d still take my risks at the Metro station than somewhere a few blocks away off station property.
Anecdote Zone: Once at the Prospect Park subway station on the B/Q in Flatbush, a group of (black) kids thought that I was a perfectly rational target with my camera. Once I heard “let’s get his camera”, I basically ran up the stairs across to other platform and ran onto the next train going toward Coney Island.
Anecdote Zone II: Once while walking thru yuppie-filled Hoboken, a two (Hispanic) youths noted that I was taking photos, and decided to follow me. I felt rather suspicious and lucked out by walking towards a police car on patrol. It scared off the two men, and I continued walking towards the light rail station.
I knew a girl who was gang raped in a Helsinki subway station. On camera.
Do they have police in Finland, or are they massively useless? Hell, you don’t even hear about gang rapes here in the US, and we’re littered with high crime rates…
This PUA echoes roissy`s sentiments –
http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/354737-post12.html
Toronto is one of the worst places in the world for AFCs, because the culture here is fundamentally “antiseptic”, and women tend to treat a fellow’s friendly-smile as somehow tantamount to rape – they scowl, or look away hostily, or stare down at the street rather than opening up.
In fact, something EXTREMELY telling about the society in Toronto:
When somebody by-accident carelessly BUMPS INTO YOU here, YOU will be expected automatically to say ‘Sorry!’ (CRAZY HUH?)
Try it sometime! – blatantly bump into people on the sidewalk as you walk by, they’ll ALL say ‘Sorry!’ and act as though nothing happened…
This is pretty-much unique to Toronto-land.
It’s part of a serious underlying theme which is “DON’T ENGAGE!”
This is not spoken-about, but you’ll notice it right away if you visit…
It’s anti-social in the extreme, a cold, unpleasant place, even when the weather is balmy and warm!
SO if you DO have any Game at all, you’ll be far, far better off than Toronto’s AFCs, and you should be able to meet-and-close women almost immediately – which is the saving-grace of the city for me, and why I maintain a home here!
From another PUA –
http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/culture-lifestyle/61946-what-easiest-most-difficult-cities-pus-4.html#post440662
I agree with the comments about Toronto being a nightmare. Having lived in the U.S. for three years and travelled extensively throughout Europe and Central America, I would say Toronto is about as bad as it gets. The whole city runs on tightly knit social circles. If you aren’t hooking up via friends, work, or school, day game is extremely difficult. I don’t do clubs, but routinely game in coffee shops etc. with only sporadic success.
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While Helsinki has a decent sized tram system,
A great thing if you like the smell of sleeping hobos.
the subway line is rather small, and thus, not worth the time and cost of traveling there, unless, you can point out an actual non-train related reason to travel there.
Fat white chicks?
And no, the Pendalino ride to Turku, Tempere, Kupio, or Rovaniemi isn’t worth it because I can ride the Pendalino in Italy or hell, England…
I’ve heard it said that the Pendolinos actually run in Italian weather… more likely just Italians exaggerating, as usual.
There’s really absolutely no reason to visit Helsinki, except perhaps the point that there are other places near. There’s Tallinn ridiculously close. There’s a train to St. Petersburg, but then, if you’re going to St. Petersburg, why bother with Helsinki? There’s also the train + ferry to Stockholm. It’s easier to fly but the ferry gets you the easiest one night stand in the world… ah, forget it
The trip began with my usual flair. Airport security confiscated my Astroglide (I always travel prepared for any eventuality)
As an alpha you shouldn’t need astroglide. Your alphaness should be enough to turn women on. Dan fuer can give you some tips.
Here`s why many top PUAs hail from Toronto –
http://www.theattractionforums.com/forum/canada/54763-something-johnny-soporno-said-about-toronto.html
I gave him a loonie
A candian dollar. So you learned some of the lingo I see.
Toronto’s 100% white blonde blue eyed princesses
got it.
but they never smile
Smiling like an idiot at people you don’t know seems to be an American thing. Then again, maybe someone here has experienced something different.
Crime is low. Six months of killing winter frost puts the kibosh on that
I would sometimes go out for a walk late at night(11pm) and no one would tell me to be careful or ask why was I going out so late. That made me think that the city is very safe for women too.
Good post. I love travel entries.
Thanks, Roissy. The article was great. Haven’t been to Toronto, but have heard great things about it, and that includes the women. By the way, those Canadian accents are sexy, eh?
Tupac Chopra
Smelly, hairy Frenchmen with groupies.
I hope Roosh wasn’t with you. That much combustable material in one area could pose a fire hazard.
screams
*dead faints*
Oh Tupac
I really need to kick you for that one.
hello
is there any subject you can’t tie into GNPs?
NO and since Peter likes to lick I can’t find anything to say about his GNP addiction.
This is one of the few posts I can remember that makes Roissy seem like a pleasant, interesting person rather than a bitchy misogynist trying to fend off huge personal insecurities. Here’s a hint about why he was in such a good mood:
I had instructed finefantastic to lead you into the ghettos wearing coordinating colours because yes, everyone is that fashionably orientated.
so he was visiting Toronto for his long-delayed date with finefantastic. Proof that the internet will get you laid, and that any type of celebrity, even the most obscure net kind, can be successfully leveraged into pussy. I’m guessing he actually likes her too. If he’s smart enough to roll with that and settle down, we’ll lose this highly entertaining blog.
@44
I second the walking. America’s obesity issue stems from a very small change in net daily caloric intake.
Since 1972, our net daily caloric intake has gone up by the equivalent of two Oreo cookies. That drives our entire obesity epidemic.
MQ:
If he’s smart enough to roll with that and settle down, we’ll lose this highly entertaining blog.
I’ll make a trip to Toronto with my compressed-air cattlegun before that happens.
Oh god, whiskey is fucking railfan too….
You may add me to the list, too, although I’m only a relatively mild case.
WTF, am I trippin or are the comments all fucked?
Do they have police in Finland, or are they massively useless?
The police isn’t massively useless but the courts are. Even child rape sometimes only gets you probation. The most notorious child killers in the country actually opt to stay in prison because they’d be torn to pieces outside. For gangs the result is that they really don’t care much about being caught, since it means so little.
Hell, you don’t even hear about gang rapes here in the US, and we’re littered with high crime rates…
You usually only “hear” about them here: since it’s almost always refugees, often the same people over and over again, the coverage is intentionally minimal and you have to make special effort if you want to know the ethnicity. Not even the crime magazines write about that anymore. (That was the final event that made me anti-multicultist: after reading about this, discovering how much of this goes on and how it’s being covered up, I, eh, hung out at Stormfront for a while before I calmed down.)
American whites have lower crime rates than Finns, BTW, an example of how marvelously non-punishment works for us.
Anyway, if you ever do railfan in Helsinki, watch out for refugees at the central railway/subway station and the park next to it, especially at night. Other subway stations have trouble, too, but only at late times when there are few people there.
I knew a girl who was gang raped in a Helsinki subway station. On camera.
By whom?
@17
“I used to live in Buffalo ”
I was born and raised in Buffalo.awful place.Lived on the west-side near the peace bridge.what part of town are you from?
By whom?
By humans of no particular religion, ethnicity or race, of course.
Tupac Chopra
WTF, am I trippin or are the comments all fucked?
they are posting at real time now.
WTF, am I trippin or are the comments all fucked?
Good for you if you are, but the comments are definitely fucked.
Women in Toronto still sound remarkably like those in Seattle, where I have the unfortunate luck of living now. They also haven’t changed much from when I used to visit Toronto 10-15 years ago. Sterile, sexually dead places. Does anyone know of cities in North America where there is still some palpable sexual energy? I’m dying to know.
I went there for school, lived in the hood by Bailey Ave (although not as hood as the East Side). Then I moved to the Main Street side near UB. Favorite area was downtown near Chippewa St, but even that got tired fast. I know about the West Side too, used to eat the BBQ wings from La Nova and eat really good Puerto Rican food from Niagara Cafe. Good wings really are the best part of Buffalo.
Roissy, why would you delete my post wondering whether or not you’re rich?
I mean, you reveal so much about yourself on this blog–why not just answer the question?
I mean, how CAN you afford to just randomly go off to Toronto? Was it a business trip? Or was it purely for pleasure?
Do tell.
Roissy,
On his trip to Europe T described the looks of men as well as the women. Do your ladies a solid!
Proof that the internet will get you laid,
Who needed proof? Timothy Leary called this one years ago.
Good recap.
Toronto doesn’t sound like much more than a pit stop.
Peter, the difference is that when you walk ALL the time you are burning that 345 calories per hour for say, 3 hours or more a day. Day after day after day. That’s a thousand calories a day, right there. Without deliberate exercising. More if you are walking around in the Cold. A lot.
But, walking around all that time requires a safe and secure environment. Otherwise people switch to cars.
Pennsylvania mine workers used to eat this HUGE breakfasts, calorie and fat laden, but they were fairly thin (for working guys) because they burned a lot of calories all day long. Heavy manual labor.
DA — I guess my perspective is colored by the ability or lack of it to get rail connections from the Airport. If you fly into Oakland, to the Bay Area, which is cheaper, you have to get on a bus to get into the BART system. Which is terrible. Same for SF Airport if I recall which costs more to fly into. Is Dallas’s system finished out to DFW Airport? It wasn’t last time I flew into there years ago. Meanwhile, Atlanta has a great system that takes you right Downtown from the airport. No need for a rental car. Chicago’s was OK, but kind of grimy and not kept up well, so too for NYC’s, stations reeked, with about as many people that flood through Hong Kong’s system.
London’s tube system is often filled with vomit during the weekends — the Brits really have huge drinking problems. It was grimier and less kept up than NYC’s.
The worst is LA. You can’t get to the system from the airport, huge problem. There’s no line down Wilshire, which would be natural, or up and down the beach, or over into North Hollywood and Burbank and Universal City. The way to go there is cheap/fast Els. Not pretty but better than tunneling through the methane-bearing ground. LA’s system is just a stupid toy.
Interestingly, in Hong Kong the Bar Scene abruptly shifted around Midnight, as people would ditch the place to get back home cheaply via the metro system instead of by costly taxi.
Expats there were generally fit. If you had to walk down and up their infamous escalator system (which is often broken) you’d be fit too.
one of the better puns i’ve seen lately.
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eight ounces of astroglide?
dear sweet god.
Last add on Toronto vs. Hong Kong — seems that Roissy’s observations seem to track for Hong Kong. Same general type of atmosphere, at least among the Expats. For the Cantonese I cannot say.
Beijing however is a pit. A cab ride across the city will leave soot all over your face (the cabs are not air conditioned) from all the coal burned there.
ok, this is strange: there were already 65 comments here (jaakkeli’s was last) when i posted what for some reason appears as comment 54.
and this one will probably, due to the same mysterious machinations of the universe, be labeled #55.
Pupu likes this post. The girls in the pictures are very attractive and interesting looking.
Speaking as someone who’s lived in both places, culturally Toronto resembles Atlanta to a shocking degree.
Replace Southern courtliness with Canadian hospitality and it’s pretty much the same. They are unfailingly polite, they’ll always give you the benefit of the doubt as a stranger, and they will extend you all the small tokens of courtesy.
Do not, at any point, mistake any of that for them actually liking you.
Same for SF Airport if I recall which costs more to fly into.
I used SFO, and BART goes directly to the International Terminal and connects with SFO’s people mover system.
s Dallas’s system finished out to DFW Airport?
Bus to TRE commuter rail.
NYC’s, stations reeked, with about as many people that flood through Hong Kong’s system
I’m a local, and I don’t think our subway reeks. Hell, it may not be immaculate, but tolerable, IMHO. Of course, nobody wants to pay for the full cost of cleaning the network to the level needed to meet modern standards. Visit Boston or Philadelphia if you want to see “dirty” stations…
BTW, JFK Airtrain connects to the A at Howard Beach and E/J/Z & Long Island Rail Road at Jamaica. EWR Airtrain connects with Amtrak and New Jersey Transit at the Newark Airport Station off airport property.
You can’t get to the system from the airport, huge problem.
Shuttle bus to Green Line Aviation Station, IIRC.
There’s no line down Wilshire
That’s the current plan for the next subway line.
over into North Hollywood and Burbank and Universal City
The current Red Line ends in North Hollywood and features a stop at Universal City.
The way to go there is cheap/fast Els.
Concrete Els are ugly as fuck, and nobody wants them in their neighbourhoods. As for the methane-bearing ground, IIRC, it was just simply an excuse designed to prevent expansion of the subway in the first place. Hence why every expansion of LA’s rail system has been on the light rail/Stadtbahn side. Personally, I’ve argued for conversion of the subway into a Stadtbahn with the conversion of the Orange Line’s busway into a railway.
Interestingly, somehow the Europeans can build tunnels, motorways, and railway networks but we magically can’t afford them…
“I asked him to insult me, instead.” Roissy, are you a secret masochist?
Went to school and lived for a while in Toronto, so Roissy’s impressions seem pretty accurate. Further thoughts:
1. Canadian women are a lot thinner than American women.
2. Even without taking #1 into account, English Canadian women are pretty hot. I would note that Canada seems to produce a disproportionate number of models. We English Canadian guys are pretty lucky.
3. Yay, frenchies. I love French Canadian women and there are quite few in TO. Of course, Montreal is ground central for the French Canadian woman, and has a rep for having lots of hotties. Never been, sigh.
4. York University has _smoking_ women. UofT, where I went, not so much. Really academic schools don’t attract the hot women.
“Roissy, why would you delete my post wondering whether or not you’re rich?
I mean, how CAN you afford to just randomly go off to Toronto?”
Maybe he would rather make you wonder. Plus, “rich” has many definitions.
Shooting off to Toronto hardly denotes the rich.
Think about it:
$300 Flight
$2000 5 nights or so in a dope hotel like Hotel Le Germain or SoHo Metropolitan Hotel. Its probably less now, hotels are charging bargain basement prices these days.
$3000 Partying, eating dope spots, swooping girls.
You can roll Toronto for under 6k.
Cheap.
- MPM
So, you went to all the cheesiest places in Toronto?
you got to see everyone: sarah taylor AND martha stewart: the dark days!
Hmm, I actually had a breakdown in Toronto and one very nice lady went out of her way to drop the family off at our hotel and give me a ride back after getting the car taken care of. It saved our vacation. Even the car repair was cheaper (and better) than it would have been here.
The only a-hole I met on the entire trip was the American Immigration guy when we were coming back across the border.
I forgot to mention that I met Chris Farley while he was filming Tommy Boy at Trinity College, UofT. He is the only celebrity I have ever met.
Hate to say it (and David Alexander alluded to it), but there are too many “smart” (or at least degreed) women in DC for the hot ratio to be that high.
Let’s face it – truly hot chicks get plucked up early by guys with money who keep them at home. Not-as-hot chicks have to get careers to support themselves.
Toronto is the worst major city in Canada for girls.
Ottawa, Montreal and Vancouver are all much better. Hotter, more approachable girls, better nightlife, better daylife, better Hockey teams. Vancouver especially if you have an Asian fetish.
I have found American girls to be both more open and more slutty, although most of my experience with them comes from a 4-day weekend in Boston on Saint Paddy’s Day, so maybe my sample is skewed.
Walking will make you less fat if you are comically obese, but if you are within two standard deviations of the average BMI it is pretty useless. The body needs intense exercise to induce it to lose weight.
Check out “Good Calories, Bad Calories” by Gary taube for a smackdown of the calories in/calories out theory of weightloss.
Zdeno, I weighed 188 lbs @ 6′2 before vacation. Came back in 2 weeks at 176 lbs. Walked 3-4 hours a day, brisk pace, trying to see as many museums and hit as many parties as I could. Mind you 3 -4 hours is an extreme case, but if you reduced it to 1 – 3 hours a day for every day for years on end it can definitely keep you trim. If you are looking for a crash diet to lose tons of weight fast then I agree intense exercise is the way to go.
79 Zdeno:
Vancouver especially if you have an Asian fetish.
Or a Clio fetish.
Don’t know about Ottawa. Vancouver bars/clubs are kind of crappy, but it has lots of Asian ESL students looking for flings, if that is what you want. I wasn’t that impressed with the hotness of Vancouver women. Montreal has a rep for having some of the hottest girls in the world. TO is OK.
I like Calgary. The economic boom is a magnet for women from all over Canada. The sheer amount of women here is amazing. Tenmagnet had this to say on his stay here (also pay attention to his commenter on prairie women in general):
http://www.tenmagnet.com/2008/08/12/calgary-tragedy/
Ottawa
I’ve been to Ottawa. My male cousin with game lives in Ottawa. Ottawa has no hot girls.
Ottawa has no hot girls.
It has Clio.
85 Thursday:
It has Clio.
Is it Ottowa? Really?
GODAMMIT. Now I have to completely revise my stalker itinerary.
It has Clio.
For guys who are for banging hot girls, I don’t understand what you see in a thirty-something virgin.
87 David Alexander:
For guys who are for banging hot girls, I don’t understand what you see in a thirty-something virgin.
It’s a white thing. You wouldn’t understand.
It’s a white thing. You wouldn’t understand.
Is that a proxy for your weak game?
I agree with T here. If most people just WALK all the time, every day, it’s like they’re on a treadmill, a lot. It’s the cumulative effort of burning calories.
That’s also more likely to produce selective shopping, since you can’t haul in a bunch of groceries thus reducing the pig-out factor. This really applies when the whole populace is like that.
DA — the bus connection to the terminal is so inconvenient. I hate that. I much prefer the total subway approach. Atlanta’s is easy. If you have a chance, check out Hong Kong’s system. it’s amazing, it will spoil you. They have repeaters so cellphones work in the tunnels. No HK’er can be without his/her cellphone — they’re always talking. The national anthem is a cellphone ring. Very clean despite heavy volume.
89 David Alexander:
Is that a proxy for your weak game?
Hey Mandingo, us crackers with our small dicks have to make the most of what we got.
sob
the bus connection to the terminal is so inconvenient
Depending on the size of the airport and the distance of the railway station and the airport, the bus link can be the best option over no link or over-built, over-engineered, and expensive solutions, especially for smaller, lower use regional airports. Depending on the distance to the airport and the design of the metro system, a link via a metro or light rail system may be the best solution, while pushing for the S-Bahn/Regional/Commuter rail solution maybe be better it the airport is far from the city center, or the average speeds of the metro system are low. Plus, depending on terminal design and layout, a people mover connection to the airport rail station may work out best.
BTW, Hong Kong and Atlanta are blessed with having the airport terminals integrated into the airports with large terminals allowing for one stop to serve the entire airport. In contrast, JFK has 8 different terminals that each need their own stop on the AirTrain…
Hey Mandingo, us crackers with our small dicks have to make the most of what we got.
You’re white. Use that fancy high IQ to trap women.
BTW, Whiskey, I’ll add that Hong Kong is the only Asian Metro system that doesn’t have piss ugly looking fleets…
To go with Tenmagnet’s comments on Calgary:
1. Women in smaller Canadian cities, even the 9s and 10s, don’t really need to be negged. They just don’t have the bitch shields of women in places like NYC, LA, and DC.
2. Women in smaller Canadian cities also rarely return your touching. They tend to be really conservative that way.
93 David Alexander:
You’re white. Use that fancy high IQ to trap women.
I do what I can, but…
I have dream.
I have a dream that I will no longer have to get all fancy with my IQ.
I have a dream to no longer be shackled by long, drawn out seductions with childish game-playing women.
I have a dream that one day, I too will be able to see that special look in a girls eye after saying:
“Excuse me while I whip this out…”
And when this day comes, you and I will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, “Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/nov/12/women-prostitution-marriage-sex-trade
thoughts, mate?
Some cities most definitely have it better than others. Social circles or not though, what would life be as a PUA if we were not challenged to rise to the occasion. Looks like I’ll be heading to Canada to have some adventures, although I do hate the cold. Damn I keep forgetting that’s why I moved to Memphis.
96. Chopra.
You may not know this, boy, but nobody wants to hear about your wet dream. Tell them to your mother. I am sure she likes hearing them, bent over, while the neighbor’s dog fucks her wet and silly.
I heard she likes reciting Martin Luther King’s speech while the rotweillers goes to town on her. Sweet!
Sounds great, looks great, but it would have to be 20 degrees warmer in the winter for it to be great. And don’t tell me there aren’t porky Candian girls; you just left them out of your pix!
Depending on the size of the airport and the distance of the railway station and the airport, the bus link can be the best option over no link or over-built, over-engineered, and expensive solutions, especially for smaller, lower use regional airports.
Not that it’s always the best option. I recall using the shuttle buses from long-term parking (also serving the subway stop) at JFK in the pre-Airtrain days. They were absolutely hideous, almost beyond any possible description.
Re the walking/burning calories thing: I agree with the poster who said that Americans’ weight problem stems from shovelling too much garbage down our gullets; but it does seem to be true that living in a pedestrian-friendly city helps, too. I gew up in NYC and spent my early adulthood in Manhattan; now I live in car-oriented, pedestrian-unfriendly Atlanta. You didn’t have as many pretty people in NYC, per capita, as you do in Atlanta, but you don’t have the high percentage of lardbuckets, either. Manhattanites seem to be in a generally nice medium-range of slimness. Here in Atlanta there are a lot of Hitler Youth type jocks and cheerleaders types, and frat-boyish yuppies and yuppesses (a lot of Ken and Barbioe couples), and these people go to the gym and are young enough to metabolize all the alcohol and junk food they consume. But you counter that with the over-thirty crowd, particularly the good ol-boys, rednecks, ghetto and barrio dwellers, and you’ve got a lot of very fat people.
A skinny friend of mine lived in Manhattan until he was about forty-five and then got a teaching job in upstate New York, where he had to drive everywhere. He told me that with no change in his diet he got fat for the first time in his life. Later he moved back to Manhattan, and again with no change in his diet, slimmed down just by being able to walk everywhere he needed to go.
why did you show yourself in one picture, and then black out your face 4 pictures later? is being prissy about a bad picture alpha?
It’s a small city, and there’s not much to do, but I was greatly impressed with the quality of girls in Victoria, BC. If you’re over in the Vancouver area, it’s worth a visit for a day or two.
Roissy wrote:
“Since these chicks are cosmopolitan and don’t get sloppy garbage-hour drunk like American chicks, your game has to be tight; any hint of cheesiness or awkwardness will send them running.”
Right on. Canadian chicks are hot like New York chicks, but snooty like Brits. Canada is a collision of old world class with new world diversity, but with a weird touch of French. I personally think Montreal in the spring/summer is a better town for game, because there are local French babes (hotter than hot) and American touristas looking to party; college girls up the wazoo; you have a number of options. Easier to navigate. But the exchange rate is no longer in your favor so you cannot just waltz in there and blow it up on hotels, bars and dinners. But the women are friendlier and sexier.
Hey Roissy,
Toronto is OK.
Try Montreal for a couple of days. You’ll be blogging about it for days!
Nothing like a racially mixed chick who’s been exposed to a french culture her whole life…. it’s to die for!
And may I point… without a doubt! Canadian women put American women to shame.
Canadians may be snooty, but you’re wrong about the comparison to NY chicks. I’d say the hot chicks in Toronto are WAY hotter than the hot chicks in NY, and no one does a “bitch shield” like a NY girl, I don’t think either Brits or Toronto chicks can be matched in that department.
Walking works. The “counting calories” thing from charts is not an accurate guide to weight loss — the body is not a factory. There are all kinds of ways your metabolism responds to exercise. Moving around for large portions of the day has a big effect on your overall health and weight. Americans are way too gym-focused.
@107. t RAW or whatever yourname is(this also applies to the rest of you unwashed yokels)
You all sound like men without proper father figures. All of you. Why else will all you bitches spend your time talking about what it means to be a man? This is what young boys do…not MEN. If you have solid father figures he would have helped you figured out what it means to be a man or an alpha by 18yrs or at the latest, 21yrs.
I am tempted to reach the conclusion that:
(1)Your father or father figure was a little bitch
(2)Or simply that a loser is just a loser is just a loser either way you cut it.
Well said, son. Now come here and let me finger your hoo-hoo while you sing “Dancing Queen” in a falsetto.
@110.
My dog misses you….he remembers fondly the little game of me dipping your pockmarked face in a toilet bowl full of brownish fecal matter shit with traces of greenish slime in them…while you eat them as my dog vigorously fucks you from behind while “Handel’s Messiah” plays in the background? Remember those wondorous days?
Seriously, you need to visit more often. My dog needs to burst a nut.
I asked him to insult me, instead. He wanly smiled. I gave him a loonie.
Pretty much sums it up, I think.
Son, I know you’re frustrated ever since I made you touch my “special place” in the third grade, but it’s time you got over it! Being so angry will give you a heart attack! Why not come over here and get some of Mommy’s milk? That’ll make you feel better. Good boy.
@113
Ques: What is the difference between 113 and a refrigerator?
Ans: The refrigerator doesnt fart when you take out the meat.
Oh, yes, here is your favorite picture(i can tell just how excited you are already!):
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/tonycrammond/DSC00592.jpg
ENJOY!!
Dagny @ 111
Way to copy Hitler’s Oct. 2008 Top Comment post on dog fucking.
And all these years I thought inhaling the musky smell of my taint would spur you with some creativity.
(sigh)
For those who read this, do me a favor and read this article. Then, tell me if your city is similar or not. It might be enlightening for everyone involved:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/pacificnw/2005/0213/cover.html
@115
I know you love this picture of your boyfriend! It is already getting you wet! You are probably greasing your anus already!
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u243/tonycrammond/DSC00592.jpg
I tell you what, i am a kind person, if you shave Alpha Dog’s balls with your teeth(yes, those balls in the link above, shave it clean with your teeth), i will let you lick the rear end of my boot, fair enough?
(but i cant promise i wont spit on you in the process, though.)
Hehehehe.
Interesting article, Fabian. Kind of reminds me of Atlanta a little bit. As I wrote above, I’m from New York City but have been living in Atlanta for longer than I like to think about Atlantans pride themselves on being “nicer” than New Yorkers, but it’s a surface “nice.” (And it disappears entirely when they get behind the wheels of their SUVs and BMWs.) And it’s very tribal. There seem to be about four or five basic tribes that people belong to (Yuppie, Ghetto, Redneck, etc.), and if you’re not in that tribe and dress in that tribe’s uniform, you’re a pariah.
On the other hand I’m sort of a loner myself, and I identified with that description of the tyoical Seattle-ite being the Ideal Next-Seat Travelling Partner on an airplane. I’m invariably polite, generally cordial, but certainly not friendly in a hi-how-are-ya way.
Fabian 116,
Great article. I’m at a college in the Northeast, and some of the white kids here are the exact same way. You’d rarely get snubbed outright, but you could never see your friendship with them getting stronger, it always stayed at a distance. You only really become their friends because you dorm with them, work with them, are in the same fraternity, etc. And you’d never really be sure if they were your friends or not.
They can’t be themselves around strangers. And they’re incorrigibly boring for it.
Most of the black kids I’ve met here, especially Africans, are decidedly the opposite – if you get along well, you could become good friends quickly.
DA said For guys who are for banging hot girls, I don’t understand what you see in a thirty-something virgin
WOW
Clio is 30+ and still pure? Man she is my new sherow:)
roissy, you are in to justice? thats awesome. its fantastic cocaine music, as you alluded to in the post – and I imagine you have a bit of a casual habit going – or maybe used to, which in my opinion can be fantastic for keeping ice in your veins when grilling bitches. would be interested to see a post on drugs in general in regards to game. i think most would say its a crutch and true ‘PUAs’ dont even drink much, but some of my best nights with ‘game’ were when i was pretty intoxicated.
anyway, ive only driven through toronto – it seemed very clean. anyone have any further opinions on montreal? i hear its snobby as shit, but if you speak any french i bet its not bad.
Whiskey saidThat’s also more likely to produce selective shopping, since you can’t haul in a bunch of groceries thus reducing the pig-out factor. This really applies when the whole populace is like that
Whiskey that was one of the points made in the French Women Don’t Get Fat book.The author said shop as you need & don’t keep a bunch of junk food around the house.
MQ saidWalking works. The “counting calories” thing from charts is not an accurate guide to weight loss — the body is not a factory. There are all kinds of ways your metabolism responds to exercise. Moving around for large portions of the day has a big effect on your overall health and weight. Americans are way too gym-focused
I agree MQ. It’s said how we know pay to go and run around on a piece of rubber and mechanical bits or to lift metal scraps.
116 Fabian
For those who read this, do me a favor and read this article. Then, tell me if your city is similar or not. It might be enlightening for everyone involved:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/pacificnw/2005/0213/cover.html
Hey Fabian, I’m a Seattle native and I can’t stand the behavior outlined in the article. It goes beyond “coldness” to downright inconsiderate and rude. It is passive-aggressive beta to the extreme. It would be very amusing, I think, to see Roissy try to bust through the ice over here with game. He might be able to pull it off (I have friends who can and do regularly), but it takes some unorthodox methods.
Anyway, if you feel frozen out feel free to get in touch. I am not a cliquish prick like that, and speak my mind with little compunction. There’s nothing to fear from doing so but social rejection, I figure, and in a city of isolated, petty social cliques being rejected by one out of very many is no big deal at all.
Welmer –
I’ve lived here for about ten years, and for the first few, I thought I was the problem. “Inconsiderate” and “rude as hell” is exactly how I would describe it. Thanks for the offer – I routinely feel frozen out. Since I’ve started reading this blog I’ve often wondered how Roissy would do in this frigid feminist bland-land. I would love to know a few of the “unorthodox methods” you mention. I know it has to be possible – underneath, women are basically the same; one just has to know how to peel back each one’s unique veneer. By the way, are you from the Eastside? I know it wasn’t always like this. I have a few native work friends who say it really started to get snooty and cold in the 90s. Before that it was pretty cool.
Hey Roissy, the gauntlet has been thrown. Get your ass out to Seattle and tell us how you do. If you need assistance finding good bars to go to, drop me a line.
@BasilRansom – Just as I feared. The antisocial blandness is taking root all over the country. I’m originally from the Northeast myself (Buffalo area). It wasn’t that bad when I last lived there in the mid 90s. It’d be interesting to see how it is now. Thanks for the response.
Bilwick1 – Atlanta sounds like Seattle too. Damn! What the hell is wrong with people? Thanks for the post.
Roissy: “The useless toy dog plague is a worldwide phenomenon. There is no escape. I’m beginning to think the Koreans have the right idea.”
The toy dogs are no good for stews. The bigger, leaner ones suppose to taste better.
124 Fabian
I would love to know a few of the “unorthodox methods” you mention. I know it has to be possible – underneath, women are basically the same; one just has to know how to peel back each one’s unique veneer. By the way, are you from the Eastside? I know it wasn’t always like this. I have a few native work friends who say it really started to get snooty and cold in the 90s. Before that it was pretty cool.
You’d have to meet my friend “D” to see them in action. But one must consider that he has some pretty impressive tools — 6′2″, 185 lbs., black hair, blue eyes, severe jaw and totally ripped. He basically comes in like a pirate storming a ship with guns a-blazing. I’ve been having a hell of a good time hanging out with him for years. My other friends are more intellectual types, but we all have a good time with each other.
I’m not from the Eastside (but my mom is). I’m from Capitol Hill, believe it or not. When I was a little boy it was still pretty Irish and Catholic, but that’s gone and done for.
Your friends are right about the 90s. It used to be much more open and friendly here before then. I don’t really know what happened, but perhaps people just went into a siege mentality or something like that. It’s a damned shame if you ask me, because this town used to be a lot of fun.
Anyway, feel free to get in touch. People who actually rise above the petty BS can do very well in this town. There’s something of a social elite, so there are some benefits to be derived from the socially backward norm if you can break out of it.
But one must consider that he has some pretty impressive tools — 6′2″, 185 lbs., black hair, blue eyes, severe jaw and totally ripped
Do you happen to have a pic of your friend?
Please
It’s almost impossible for a person to be unattractive with this type of color combination.
@129
I’ll cosign, post the pic!
black hair, blue eyes,
That’s a nice combination, on both men and women.
I’ve never met a natural blonde with dark eyes, as far as I know. I’ve know dark-eyed brunettes who dyed their hair blonde, but it never looked right. I also once knew a black guy (100% black as far as I could tell) who had emerald-green eyes.
you can come across less common color combinations in southern europe, north africa and to a lesser extent, the indian subcontinent. i once knew a light-skinned black girl whose natural hair color was wheatish blond, and she had brown eyes.
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OK, fine. If you guys insist. I’ll put a couple up my flickr account for your pleasure.
Just so you know, these come off his own site so I’m no fag hoarding my buddy’s photos.
The bod:
The face (a bit dated and worn and in B&W, but it’s my man and you can still see the grey eyes and black hair):
Hey, Roissy, the links I posted don’t seem to be showing up.
Again:
face
Bod
OK, that’s “D”
There are natural blondes with brown eyes in northern Europe, even very blonde girls.
Among Canadians, Toronto is known as a city of well-dressed, polite, but cliquish and not especially friendly people.
People in Canada get friendlier in general as you move west, but I suspect the women don’t tend to be as slender and well-groomed as those in the east, at least until you reach Vancouver.
In Ottawa, the fact that so many people are civil servants is bad for grooming, because all but the most senior employees feel free to wear whatever they want in the office. I’ve known them to wear shorts or sweats to work. Fatness levels here don’t reach American heights but men and women do tend to get rather bulky and shapeless as they get older.
Clio
torontonians have a weird insecurity about being toronto and not new york, and it manifests itself as aloofness (alot of the hipsters are from small town ontario who think that they have to be snotty to be urban). it is highly dependent on the neighborhood you’re in though, and if you stick around long enough, you can penetrate the inner cliques without much to do. it is true about guys not approaching, the ones that do are the 905 suburban weekend warriors that pour into the club district to get as drunk, high and laid as possible in a 5 hour period of time. ridiculous.
PA I also once knew a black guy (100% black as far as I could tell) who had emerald-green eyes
I know a number of blks who have natural green eyes. Even carmel colored blks like myself. Black people with blue eyes are super rare. I can count the number of blk/biracial people who I’ve seen with them.
Welmer
Face-not bad
body-I’m hot
LOL@covering your face in one photo, yet you are fully visible in another (same shirt pattern). Didn’t you think anyone would notice genius?