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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/express/pdfs/EXPRESS_01232008.pdf
I saw this in the Express on Wednesday morning and thought you would enjoy it. It is on page 34 (I think) and there is a great quote about half way through.
Something like “Men are spermbanks, handymen, and early retirement plans”
Have u seen this: Japan makes robot girlfriend for lonely men
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25209226//wid/11915829?GT1=40006
Waiting for my consignment.
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You are like 20. Whatever, dude. Call me when you lose your virginity.
An Ode To Omega:
Yes, I came to your site via Jezebel. I am actually glad that I did because I had no idea this kind of mentality still existed (although it is nothing new…men typically want a whore in the bedroom and a mother in the kitchen. I thought we were all trying to get past that?). I went through a range of emotions regarding the ‘slut’ post before writing this comment. It may be too late in the ‘game’ to expect a reply but I will try and be brief.
I am approaching 40, never married, no children. Do I regret some of the choices that I made? Yes. Can I take them back? No. This is a human experience.
The choices I made had nothing to do with whether or not I thought a man might find them offensive, unattractive or make me a negative on the sexual market. I made these choices because they were mine to make and I wanted to make them. As a human in a free society believe that they have choices, so did I. I wanted to travel, so I did. I wanted to have various sexual and social experiences, so I did.
It seems that Roissy’s opinion is that physical beauty + chastity are the only qualifiers (for women) to have a meaningful life. I disagree. It may make sense on a Darwinian level (I understand that that is what PUA’s are saying), but for me life is more than who I can attract for sex or child rearing.
I have never understood marriage or monogamy. It seems contrary to human nature (I realize as a slut I am proving your point). However, not all men desire these things either.
I have one other image to put in your head…….
Imagine you are in a horrible accident.. a car crash that leaves you mentally and/or physically disabled..would you still have hope? Would you hope that someone might still love you, despite your physical deformity ( age)? As humans I think we all do.
LMAO at the “picture” of Mr. Roissy. What a colossal fag, although what else could I expect from the pencil-dicked 5′6″ virgin who wrote this shit blog. Ten bux says MISTER ALPHA has back hair, acne, and causes women to vomit when he drops his (size 38) pants.
LMAO at the “picture” of Mr. Roissy. What a colossal fag, although what else could I expect from the pencil-dicked 5′6″ virgin who wrote this shit blog. Ten bux says MISTER ALPHA has back hair, acne, and causes women to vomit when he drops his (size 38) pants.
It’s truly indictive of what women (and in particular the Jezebel crowd) really find to be hateful and loathsome in this world that, in their insults, they chose to slander men as DnD nerds, short socially inept geeks, etc. rather than use “callow manipulators,” “sadistic assholes,” etc. as terms of abuse.
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In the words of my husband, who just found and showed me this waste of virtual space known as your blog, “what is WRONG with some men?”
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
[editor: your husband sounds like a beta loser. which means you are likely a loser as well.]
You’re so completely, unappealingly turdlike it boggles the mind.
[turn on your hate light.]
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Roissy’s dating himself.
really nice that you can call someone’s husband a loser because they don’t agree with your blog when you don’t even know them. I am willing to bet her husband has a far more fulfilling and interesting life than you do.
You are a shallow, hateful, superficial individual. No, most men do not think like you, and many of the women who have been in meaningful relationships for longer than three years who don’t fit you stupid rating system are a testament to that. And before you chalk all their men up to be losers, let me just tell you that mine is Greek, tall, toned like your classic Greek, and about to attain his doctorate. He has also played the dating game. Obviously it wasn’t as much to him as it is to you.
In the words of a person who wallows a little bit deeper than spray tans and silicone:
Get a life.
and about to attain his doctorate
doctorate student from southern Europe.huuuummmm
SWPL beta-herb loser, for sure
gig
that comment alone just proves how fucking ignorant you are. wow
And no, he’s getting his doctorate from right here in the US.
Continue rationalizing your delusional world.
doctorate in what, may I ask?
Lynne
It may be hard on you, but 90% of the doctorates out there are useless. Some areas (i.e sociology) are entirely useless, some others (biology), much less so. Most universities are useless in all areas
WHat most doctorates serve for, unfortunately, is to rationalize why they are useful despite generating nothing for society and to create panic in order to justify funding. That describes 95% of doctorates
Lastly, doctorates appeal top those who want low risk and stable payment professions. Those caveats can be ignored if the person is a genius. But for the normal, average folks, to chose a doctorate is to chose the unmanly path
so there is a 95% of your BF doctorate being useless and 99% of his choices being based in an unmanly personality (wants to minimize risk and retunr). this is why I described your BF as an SWPL beta
Does it make any particular difference what he’s specializing in? Are you asking so that you can do some more rationalizing? He’s getting a doctorate in psychiatry. Yeah, I know, the irony. And why should I answer your questions? I’m not under any obligation to prove anything to you. All you have to do is look around, and you will see that outside of the sad, drug induced club scenes, there are real people in real marriages and real relationships.
What ever gig. I’ll leave you with one of my favorite quotes:
Illusory joy is often worth more than genuine sorrow–Rene Descartes
You stay in your illusion, I’ll stay stay mine and we can both be happy. I thought you were intelligent to know that success and appearance is subjective. You don’t get to decide whether my man is a beta or anything else. Stick to judging your own GFs/BFs
there is also a subgroup of doctoral students who follow that route in order to maximize poon
in that case, you will get good fucks, but as Marx would say, you ´ll get accordingly to your needs, and accordingly to his abilities, he will service an Harem of undergrads
http://www.happinessinthisworld.com/2009/05/24/the-good-guy-contract/
Just wanted to send you an interesting link about something called “The Good Guy Contract” or, as you may put it, “The Beta Male Contract”. Definitely could be useful in expounding on the Beta trait of saying “yes” to everyone. The article advocates men stop being the “nice guy”.
Choice quote: “The Good Guy Contract was simple: I would agree to be nice to you, to advise you, to sacrifice for you, to care about you—and in return you would agree to believe that I was wise, compassionate, excellent as a human being in every way, and finally and most importantly, you would like me.”
How many of us have been put in this situation: Guy wants girl. Girl asks guy to pick her up from work, fix her television set, watch her cat when she’s out of town, etc… Girl doesn’t want guy, but uses him because she knows he’s signed the “Good Guy Contract”. Guy hopes he’ll get a shot by helping her out with all these things, but in reality, he has no chance. Guy needs to stop saying “yes” all the time.
You’ve inspired me to start blogging from across the pond, in the (un)lovely UK.
I’ve joined a Syndicate so we can aggregate our unique hits. My other blogger, the Kap’n, covers vaguely what I cover, but focuses more on the States of the West, rather than society, as well as music and my other fellow reviews films.
I myself shall cover ‘Society’ and its expected collapse unless we can intervene – hence my name. Feminism and socialists shall be crushed under my worded fists. Men being encouraged to be men again shall be triumphed.
The Malthusianist, of http://evilboss.co.uk/
Zarathustra:
> It’s truly indictive of what women (and in particular the Jezebel crowd) really find to be hateful and loathsome in this world that, in their insults, they chose to slander men as DnD nerds, short socially inept geeks, etc. rather than use “callow manipulators,” “sadistic assholes,” etc. as terms of abuse.
best comment of the day!
http://www.nationalaffairs.com/blog/detail/findings-a-daily-roundup/love-and-marriage
Some very serious scientfic studies on male/female social dynamics is list here . . . worth a look to empirically confirm what you say all along.
I forgot to give you the link to the video:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/24/steini-girl-germanys-answ_n_298697.html
Here’s a topic I know you’ll love to blog about. The (female) political writer Anne Applebaum ponders: “Why do Italians Keep Voting for Silvio?” Hmmm..why would that be?!??!
http://www.slate.com/id/2232169/?from=rss
I intensely disliked you at first. Might still dislike you. Honestly, it may have been your readers more than you. But I’ve got to give credit where credit is due – your blog is fascinating and some of the stuff you write has given me pause for thought. In fact, you’ve forever fucked up my view of men. I now can’t help but categorize and dissect them into alphas and betas and maybe even herbs. It’s like having a power play book right in my hand, like I’ve been given the tools to figure them out and manipulate if I choose to (which I don’t, not intentionally, okay maybe intentionally but not often).
In fact—I almost hate to admit this but—you might be a genius. You might not realize you have inadvertently helped women out, too. I would contribute more but frankly, some of the people who leave comments are tools and I don’t like ad hominen attacks.
ad hominem is kind of a Latinate, patriarchal and sexist term to use. i think i detect some snippiness, but it may be your english
This was a genuinely snippy free post.
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Also let me just be clear:
1. wearing good clothes
2. having a car
3. having enough money to pay for chicks on non crappy first dates if need be
4. having a good social circle
5. having your own place
6. being well groomed
7. beyond that, having a style, maybe with some bling maybe not
8. having an identity, a job
9. working out and having a well built body
10. clean face, teeth and good haircut
11. smell good, manly cologne
12. be successful at something the girl can admire
ALL THESE THINGS ARE NOT GAME, THEY ARE THINGS I KNEW INTUITIVELY (as did most normal people) AT 17 THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE.
Game is psychological techniques of getting stuff that you shouldn’t be able to get normally. There are gurus that claim that the subconscious (illogical) parts of the female brain can be activated using game to cause her to cheat on her boyfriend in the toilet with a guy she met recently, who is short skinny and bald, and it will work on ALMOST ANY CHICK. I have yet to see any proof that such “game” exists.
There are women who are out to have fun (and some are consciously prepared to act slutty whereas others are vulnerable/drunk or open to it). Also there are chicks who are very loyal to their boyfriends. Saying that you can approach any chick having NONE of the traditional good points for a man (see above) and systematically be able to induce “gina tingles” so high on the richter scale that she will spread her legs in a jiffy and the predictability of a robot, seems to me like a religion without any substantiated fact. It seems like wishful thinking marketed to guys who would do better to improve in the above NORMAL areas (read: not game) … which improve their LIFE … rather than teaching them specialized tips and tricks that can supposedly induce trance-like irrational desire in women, so strong, that it surpasses anything she feels for a guy with the “normal” traits I listed above.
Pickup artist talk and marketing materials are laden with expressions like
“doggy dinner bowl eyes”
“fucked me in the toilets”
“OMG where did you come from? I have to know you”
“creamed her pants”
“she is ready to lick your dick”
“there are no sluts, every girl is like this” (implication: my methods work on every girl)
Do you consistently get 10s to give you doggy dinner bowl eyes and want to fuck you? Then you are doing something right and I want to learn from you. I would even pay you $3,000 for a seminar. But I have never seen any evidence from anyone that can back this up. It’s all anecdotal videos with open-minded girls in clubs and on the street. The guy probably failed 20 times before he succeeded.
Before I finish up there is one more distinction to be made, which also seems pretty obvious to me. Almost anyone can get laid if they lower their standards enough. Guys get into the game in order to get THE GIRLS THEY WANT, to want them. Pure and simple. Sleeping with 384 unattractive women will not get you to your goal of getting 1 really attractive girl to love you. So it’s important to me what the guy’s success rate is ONLY AMONG THE CHICKS THAT I WANT – which are 9s and 10s. When a guru speaks about picking up chicks he should be able to tell me what his success rate is with getting 9s and 10s to want him, and how badly. If his rate is worse than mine, why would I learn from him?
I suspect my rate is already higher than 99% of guys including gurus, and yet it’s not where I want it to be. THat is why I would want to learn from Mystery, or whoever, who can PROVE to me that they get consistent results, and not just film anecdotal videos.
I am personally pretty pissed at the pickup community as a whole, for wasting my time with outrageous promises, promising me the moon when in reality I would have done better to work on the NORMAL things that everyone knows are attractive, and would be much further ahead in life. These guys advocate doing cold approaches and practicing low value behavior of coming up to people on the street (like beggars do) many times a day, in order to get 10s. They say to break rapport and say things picking routines that make you sound like a guy who is miscalibrated and conceited (see Love Systems routines manual) which would nosedive your rep in any decent social circle, including your own. They encourage you to dump your friends and go join up with a group of other guys trying to get better at meeting women, and buy their products. Except the fact is, there is no evidence that their techniques make you into a ROCKSTAR PIMP WIELDING PSYCHO SEXUAL GAMES, but there is amble evidence that they make guys even more weird and awkward and harm their social lives when they could instead have been working on getting more attractive the normal way. You’re not going to live forever. You can learn psychological techniques when you’re old and poor. Right now focus on being young and successful.
Greg
13. big trashcan for copies of The Game and the VAH.
Good list – if you have all that, you don’t need Game. You just described the high school quarterback.
1. wearing good clothes
2. having a car
3. having enough money to pay for chicks on non crappy first dates if need be
4. having a good social circle
5. having your own place
6. being well groomed
7. beyond that, having a style, maybe with some bling maybe not
8. having an identity, a job
9. working out and having a well built body
10. clean face, teeth and good haircut
11. smell good, manly cologne
12. be successful at something the girl can admire
ALL THESE THINGS ARE NOT GAME, THEY ARE THINGS I KNEW INTUITIVELY (as did most normal people) AT 17 THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE.
numbers 4,7,8 and 12 can all be influenced by game.
Game is psychological techniques of getting stuff that you shouldn’t be able to get normally.
you can say that about any endeavor or self-improvement a man embarks on to make himself more marketable.
You can learn psychological techniques when you’re old and poor. Right now focus on being young and successful.
better yet, you can learn psychological techniques now when you’re young and get pussy a lot quicker than you would from spending years toiling in academia or the corporate world.
MNL
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Thanks Doug1
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I intensely disliked you at first. Might still dislike you. Honestly, it may have been your readers more than you. But I’ve got to give credit where credit is due – your blog is fascinating and some of the stuff you write has given me pause for thought. In fact, you’ve forever fucked up my view of men. I now can’t help but categorize and dissect them into alphas and betas and maybe even herbs. It’s like having a power play book right in my hand, like I’ve been given the tools to figure them out and manipulate if I choose to (which I don’t, not intentionally, okay maybe intentionally but not often).
In fact—I almost hate to admit this but—you might be a genius. You might not realize you have inadvertently helped women out, too. I would contribute more but frankly, some of the people who leave comments are tools and I don’t like ad hominen attacks.
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Yo Yo can someone please ad hom this chick she is begging for it.
Greg…
This was posted at roissy’s before:
http://www.geocities.com/protopop_1999/treatise.html
it must be a pain in the ass to read in English (looks like it’s translated by a guy not very familiar with american culture/language). I read the original, but it all comes down to the same thing:
* attraction, “judgement module” works on a very primitive, ancient, instictive level. Women don’t exactly like alpha logically (until they had a chance to experience and compare perhaps), but it’s a necessary evolutionary device.
* thus attraction “module” is not exactly precise. It is not looking for “alpha male” seeing right through your act, it’s trying to catch as many alphas as possible via catching very simple, primitive traits and behaviour sequences, something on the level a lizard would recognize, shiny-not shiny. Well, perhaps a bit more complex, but you get the idea.
So “outer game” is pretty much consciouscly replicating sequences that were, by trial and error, determined to be alpha. Neg, teasing, C+F…
Bigger goal is actually becoming more alpha so you replicate all that without knowing. As the same guy puts it, if it’s possible for wolves to raise a human child as a wolf, it’s certainly possible to obtain some/enough alpha traits.
As far as actually figuring out and summarizing those attractive sequences, how and why they work, not sure that’s even possible any time soon. You can share and sift with trial and error, that’s what “community” is. Though I’d love to hear some routines that are crutches that make you look as alpha and make women release the inner slut on you, as 11minutes described sometime. I don’t believe strawberry fields or the cube is that, sorry. Even marry-fuck-kill is rather contrived if you do it word by word.
I heard mystery speak the other day. According to mystery, 9s and 10s he met 30 minutes ago fight one another to go home with him, on a weekly basis.
Except this time I actually agreed with a lot of what he said. Because he eschewed talking about routines and just talked about structure. That stuff I definitely agree with. Basically IF you are able to get the sequence of events happening:
OPEN, DHV, NEG TARGET, BODY ROCK OUT
(ALTERNATIVELY GET ACCOMPLISHMENT INTRO)
OBSERVE IOIs FROM FEMALE
QUALIFY FEMALE
ISOLATE
PUMP BT
then yes of course she will be into you. Has nothing to do with routines though. And good luck doing that on a freaking street or in a coffee shop, where she is NOT surrounded by friends! Or how about negging her and then slowly go WOW … I WAS INTO YOUR FAT UGLY FRIEND BUT NOW I SEE YOU HAVE PERSONALITY … WHAT HAEV U GOT GOING FOR YOU OTHER THAN YOUR LOOKS? WOW I CANT EVEN TALK TO YOU NOW. BUT GIVE ME YOUR PHONE NUMBER ANYWAY. FAT UGLY FRIEND, HOTTIE, I’LL TTYL.
What I would like is a more detailed bio of the blogster. I notice this trend in DC, where a 5 guy feels entitled to a 20-on-a-scale-to-10 woman and…I don’t understand where this deluded self confidence comes from. NOT assuming this is a case of the same, however, from that about photo…seems like it just might fit.
So…what’s the deal? Show us more about yourself.
Adri
Who do you think cares what you’d like?
Thats the beauty of it though adri it is so simple. Men with money can get whatever they want. Any man can become a ten.
So how much money are we talking about, exactly? Six figures right out of university good enough?
K a day disposable.
Enough to where you can afford the 10k it takes to afford models.
But really six figures is something to work with to get to where you are financially independant.
Check my blog for some ideas.
Course a 100k a year is gonna make you a 10 to a shitload of woman.
K a day disposable? That works out to approx 750K topline (depending on your tax regulation of course). Gotta spend a few more years to reach that…
Also I’m not quite sure I am very much interested in the women who think 100K makes you a 10. Not if they are from Western countries, anyway. Now maybe a 500K gold digger I could find arrangements with.
One of these days I will have to craft a post describing my case, it’s interesting for a multitude of reasons. For now, lets just say that yes, there are some people who rate alpha on some dimensions and very much omega on others.
Well, it’s possible that I am more alpha than a lot of men who pass through here could ever be.
If they had aspirations of being alpha female of course. Though some I really wouldn’t put that past….and others, well, with all the things feminine I have in my arsenal and enjoy being a woman, I’d still be more alpha male than they could dream of being.
Gunz, does this one make me a bitch?
I thought I’d try it on just this once to see =)
If you are not interested in women who think 100K makes you a 10
then why do you expect women to be interested in a man who thinks model looks make women a 10
Looks Money
Man’s wife has gastric bypass-surgery, loses 80lbs, now has social life and is cheating on him.
So he writes Dear Abby for advice.
She tells him–go seek marriage counseling to “understand the new dynamic of your relationship”.
http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/65727532.html
”””””””msexceptiontotherule
Well, it’s possible that I am more alpha than a lot of men who pass through here could ever be.
If they had aspirations of being alpha female of course. Though some I really wouldn’t put that past….and others, well, with all the things feminine I have in my arsenal and enjoy being a woman, I’d still be more alpha male than they could dream of being.
Gunz, does this one make me a bitch?
I thought I’d try it on just this once to see =)
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That is a pretty broad brush. But yea I need alpha woman in my life as long as they don’t want to be alpha males he he he
Don’t worry bout the models I have only told two woman I love them. Kind of selective.
Seriously Alpha
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8331136.stm
johnny_marks:
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Man’s wife has gastric bypass-surgery, loses 80lbs, now has social life and is cheating on him.
So he writes Dear Abby for advice.
She tells him–go seek marriage counseling to “understand the new dynamic of your relationship”.
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It is indeed ludicrous, but on the other hand, to quote xplat’s comment here somewhere: That women “should” fuck betas for the betterment of the social and economic fabric is the male version of men “should” remain faithful.
Writing “dear Abby” you get what you’re supposed to get. Sure, there are some genetic limits and even non-genetic advanced stuff is hard, but it’s not that hard at all to be less pussy in this man’s case.
> then why do you expect women to be interested in a man who thinks model looks make women a 10
By that standard, the 10s would not be interested in 99.99999% of all men. Which is probably true, but for other reasons.
To be fair, I do not think perfect 10s even exist. And for anything but a short fling (i.e. if you going to do anything besides fucking) a 8 that can hold a conversation and is not easily offended beats a 9 without those attributes hands down.
gunz: I don’t want to be an alpha male, but is it my fault that I would make a better one in comparison to some men? I’m content with the alpha femme status, though it can be irritating to deal with the high-heeled traffic that is created by the lesser ladies clamoring for the opportunity to move up, which is a problem wherever people congregate for social purposes.
But there can only be one you msexceptiontotherule.
Gunz: Well of course there can be only one…..
And I didn’t have to run around chopping off people’s heads to get the status of being that one, but it would have been much more entertaining if I had. At the very least it would give me more practice with the traditional Samurai sword, which is always nice.
lol Your wild as hell but I got to admit I like it.
Lady Snowblood, is that you?
wild that would be considered a year-round thing and doesn’t have any blackout periods during the night hours schedule or….
wild we only see when the moon is full kind of way?
I’d also consider options with some sort of half-time arrangement for when wild is present, but have yet to find any that are suitable. My job doesn’t really come with the flexibility in schedule required for the choices I am presently aware of.
Still, whenever I hear the phrase “There can be only one”, why do I end up thinking about the battle between lindsay lohan and hillary duff over who will be the reigning teen skank of the tabloids? It’s worse than any of the battles out of all the highlander movies, mostly because they want to be top skank after they win that one in the title match.
> My job doesn’t really come with the flexibility in schedule required for the choices I am presently aware of.
Clearly you are not yet alphafemale enough then. My job comes with crazy hours and travel and I still manage THAT part. The key is really to simply do it and require total understanding from the other party.
Wild as in different from any female I have seen.
Not tamed into the average.
”””’My job doesn’t really come with the flexibility in schedule required for the choices I am presently aware of.”””””””’
Willing to learn.
Problem solving capability.
And understands me.
Well when you put it that way, it doesn’t seem like a bad sort of wild to be. Let’s go with that, just as soon as I get home and am able to type without the tendency towards forgetting I was doing something……… oh yeah. commenting. we’ll have to have a debriefing after I get home.
No, dudes. 10x exist. You just don’t even meet them.
When you swim in a sea of them, and they hang around you and your bros, that’s when you realize you’ve been wasting your life.
Welcome to the life of the royalty…
Late to this but,
“10. clean face, teeth and good haircut”
This is a photo of Greg, from his website. Dude has a five o’clock shadow and a Jew-fro mullet out of Welcome Back Cotter.
Better to try being bold than weak.
Roissy,
I tried contacting you via e-mail, but didn’t hear back. In the event my message got caught in the spam file, I’m writing you here.
Here’s the deal: there’s a model out there that has been demonstrated to be about 72%-90% accurate in predicting whether a company will go bankrupt in the next year or two. I just launched a site with a stock screener based on that model: shortscreen.com.
I know your blog isn’t a financial one, but many of your readers seem to share your bleak view about where America is headed. Presumably, they are also bearish on American stocks. If so, some of them might be interested the screener my site offers.
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Let me know what you think.
Thanks.
Dave
Dave sorry bro but isn’t short selling the most stupid thing you could ever do?
At some point along the timline of shortselling aren’t you guaranteed to hit a stock that goes up lets say 50 percent in value?
And at the point that would happen it would look like this:
100,000 invested.
stock goes from 10 to 15 dollars a share overnight.
You now have to buy back the shares at 15 and now owe 50 g’s over what you have in.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Or like what happened with vw and people where oweing like 20 times investment.
So yea they invested 100,000 and now owe 1.9 million dollars.
Kind of sounds like the right investment if you eventually want to owe a shitload of money.
Gunslingergregi,
There’s a simple way to limit your downside, if you want to bet against stocks: buy puts on them instead of shorting the stock. As with shorting, you’ll profit from the stock tanking, but in the case of buying puts, your maximum loss is limited to what you paid for the put. You can use my site to screen for candidates to buy puts on as well as to short.
I don’t limit myself to buying puts, because I believe there are often better short selling candidates among stocks that aren’t big enough to have options traded on them. There is of course a risk that I will lose money on some trades, but by limiting myself to stocks that a highly accurate model predicts are headed for bankruptcy, I believe the odds are on my side. Also, unlike VW, stocks on the verge of bankruptcy would seem to be less likely to spike up in value significantly.
What’s really stupid, in my opinion, is to run a long-only portfolio. Anyone who did that last year got his head handed to him. I believe it’s more prudent to have some long positions, some short positions (whether puts or actual shorts), and some hedges.
But it does happen. Sprint went up 20 percent today. One day. Same hypothetical scenerio you would owe 20 g’s.
In the next few days sprint will be at 4 bucks. which would be 33 percent. So that would be 33 k in a week or so.
Either way the stock market sucks compared to small business but it does give a sense of achievement if you win and it sounds cool to say you play the market.
And puts you lose all value if you don’t make money.
But yea ok if you could limit yourself to like 5 percent of portfolio sure maybe.
But 20 percent of 5 k is only a grand.
And we all have seen people at the casino pumping in quarters.
Gunslingergregi,
If all of your money is in one position, short or long, obviously you are taking on a huge risk. If you understand what you are doing, shorting (or buying puts) can reduce the overall risk of your portfolio. That’s why many professional investors incorporate shorting into their overall portfolio strategies.
That’s also why I have added short positions (and hedges) to my portfolio. During the next market correction, all of my positions won’t be going in the same direction at the same time.
“Either way the stock market sucks compared to small business”
As a stock market investor and a small businessman, I think that’s a pointlessly invidious statement. There are inherent risks and potential upsides to both.
“And we all have seen people at the casino pumping in quarters.”
A false analogy. Intelligent investing isn’t gambling, and if you don’t understand the difference you probably shouldn’t be doing either.
Yea I do need to quit it that is a fact he he he
You called that one.
Although again I have to qoute merryl lynch on 3.5 million millionaires in the us. How many intelligent investers are there?
Just saying fuck the stock market from my experience.
Buy houses cash.
Rent them.
If I would have never gone to college I never would have played market.
I mean it was fun but there are other thing that are pretty much guaranteed money.
We should just forget about all of that gunz, and go off and do ninja independent-contracting jobs instead.
gunslingergregi,
You can definitely make money investing in rental properties. But, like anything else, there are risks and you have to do your homework. I’m sure there are folks who got burned in real estate in the last few years who are now saying, “fuck the real estate market”. Everyone has to find his way. Stocks may not be your way. That’s cool.
For the rest of you, I’d suggest taking a look at the site if you do invest in stocks. There’s no bullshit or unrealistic promises about the member tools, and I back up what I write with footnotes including links to relevant academic studies. I’ve done extensive research on this, and I eat my own cooking — I’m using the screener on this site to short stocks myself.
In any case, GLTA whatever you approach you take.